but my family/tribe members and I don't always agree.

I have a rabidly pro-Farrakhan cousin who is so anti-Israel it makes my head spin. He has been throwing this at me for months, and I finally decided to read up on it.

The Israeli-Palestinian situation is extremely ugly. And most Americans have no idea. Heck, most Americans don't know much about anything that happens in the rest of the world.

But while I find that there are some Americans who are pro-Israel, and some Americans who are anti-Semitic, there doesn't seem to be a space for simply being pro-Palestinian.

I have always believed that the Palestinians got screwed. And that no one sticks up for them. I hate this, but don't know what to do about it. Oh, and I don't think other Middle Eastern countries are "sticking up for Palestine" by hating Israel and wanting to destroy it.

Who champions the Palestinians?

will try to name them, when I see one.

And I do, have done so often, as well as my Pakistani friend (U.S. citizen for 50+ years, studied in Utah, lived in Brooklyn, now in DC suburb, active in U-U 'church.')

Jews have been living in and around israel for more than 3200 years, it's their ancestral homeland, not someplace they were dumped by european countries. By the time the arab armies arrived and conquered the entire region, the Jewish people had been living there for more than 1800 years.

I don't really expect you to change your thinking in a blink of an eye but just consider how different the history of the conflict is presented in the journal article linked below compared to your summary in the op.

https://jcpa.org/article/deconstructing-the-three-stages-of-the-nakba-myth/

It was pretty in-depth. I only grasped a few things.

- "oh, the poor Palestinians!" is something that evolved around 1967 (aggressors become victims)
- the area where the Palestinians now are has been fought over and appropriated by different people for centuries.
- the Jews who arrived in the 1940's were not the first migration of Jews into the land around Jerusalem. And some Jews were always there.
- the Arab states in the Middle East did a "Jewish purge" in the beginning of the 20th century
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Now, with all of that said, I think it is still accurate that Israel has come up with some laws that are unfavorable to Palestinians, there is prejudice against Palestinians in Israel, there is discrimination in the workforce against Palestinians, there is some physical segregation.

So, I will never again suggest that the history of that region can be described in a single, simple paragraph of "bad Israeli's displaced poor Palestinians", but it does not justify some of the laws and behaviors going on today.

who is calling who anti-semitic? Then choose your best course of action.

And started their conquests in the 600s.



https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/world-history/medieval-times/spread-of-islam/a/the-rise-of-islamic-empires-and-states

always non Jews living in the area. It is an area that was constantly invaded, migrated to, due to its location, fairly fertile areas, etc.
Even before the explosion of Arabs/Islam out of Arabia in the 800s, there were likely Arabs that lived in the area due to natural migration, as it was a better place to live than most of Arabia, closer to major trade routes, etc.
We have to keep in mind it was always a shared area. Judea/kingdom of Judah (and prior to that the united kingdom of Israel) was never as powerful as the jewish bible likes to make it seem like it was. It was more like a loose confederation of tribes that was able to come together due to periods of weakness of surrounding nations.

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they could legitimately lay claim to their homeland, but they assimilated/disappeared like most other ME groups.

To be clear, I don't think there is a specific date for indigenity.

So Palestinian Arabs are indigenous as well, but their national identity didn't coalesce until the 1960s.

Eta some interesting research on canaanites that came out a couple years ago:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/07/170727122039.htm

The Canaanites were a group of tribes that included Phoenicians, Edomites, Ammonites, and Hebrews. The Phoenicians are the ancestors of some Lebanese that are discussed in the article you posted. The Canaanites south of Lebanon and west of the Jordan River also did not disappear. The Hebrews united them into the Israelites, which then became the Jews. Hebrew is the last living Canaanite language.

And to understand why Jews want a haven and Palestinians want a home.

I think if you really looked into it, that you would find that a higher percentage of pro-Israel people also recognize the aspirations of Palestinians than the other way around.