Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumWow! And to think so many here were chastised for opining about Bibi helping Trump win in 2016
It's a complicated world but Israel has never really been an ally but a user. And the truth seldom is told.
https://archive.is/bvyFj
heartbroken for HRC but just imagine what she would have faces as President? She is better off now and vindicated for all her warnings.
Tetrachloride
(8,435 posts)their goals are not our goals
moreover, this piece of DU is separate from the rest for reasons often not related to the weather but can be related to the calendar
OAITW r.2.0
(28,193 posts)Israel should know it's roots and should never allowed it to take root in their country. It's the product of fear.
multigraincracker
(33,925 posts)HRC will end up the hero of the whole thing. That is what she deserves. I've felt so bad for her the whole time.
I live among many HRC haters and when I ask them why they hate her so much, they can never give me an answer.
I would love to see her as a Justice on the highest court. She has been right about everything.
2naSalit
(92,042 posts)I also felt bad for us as a nation... we really lost out too. But I will always feel that HRC was purposefully robbed of many honors she deserves.
Mosby
(17,287 posts)Going back years.
A subtler variation of Greenwalds cartoonish approach is on display in the work of James Bamford. Heralded as our finest investigative journalist covering the NSAhe is the author of three books about the agencyBamford has spent the last five years repeating his favorite cautionary tale, the one about how Americas spymasters are secretly powered by Israeli cunning. Last year, for example, Bamford wrote a story in Wired titled Shady Companies With Ties to Israel Wiretap the U.S. for the NSA, revealing the role two Israeli technology firms play in making the agencys surveillance infrastructure possible.
In a rare and candid admission to Forbes, Bamford wrote, Retired Brig. Gen. Hanan Gefen, a former commander of the highly secret Unit 8200, Israels NSA, noted his former organizations influence on Comverse, which owns Verint, as well as other Israeli companies that dominate the U.S. eavesdropping and surveillance market.
It sounds like pretty damning stuff, unless one realizes two key facts. The first is that Bamfords rare and candid admissiona term crucial to creating an aura of mystery and intrigue around what would have otherwise been just another one of the myriad commercial transactions that occur daily in a globalized economywas anything but: The Israeli armys contribution to that countrys technology scene in general, and Unit 8200s involvement in particular, is widely discussed, including by members of the unit itself, and it formed much of the thesis of Start-Up Nation, the 2009 best-seller by Dan Senor and Saul Singer.
But even those forest-dwellers who may be honestly surprised to learn that Western armies develop and use advanced technologiessuch as, to name but one prominent example, the Internet, which owes its existence to the U.S. Department of Defensewould surely not be surprised to learn that nations also sell each other stuff. Last month, for example, a report noted that the U.S. Army will pay $77 million to replace old M4 rifles with shiny, new M4A1s. The latter are produced by FN Herstal, a subsidiary of the Herstal Group, a corporation that is entirely owned by the Walloon Region of Belgium, which is to say, by a foreign government. But dont expect Bamford et al., to evoke the same ominous hum about the infiltration of the Walloons; foreign military contracts, apparently, are only a terrifying evil that threatens to undermine American democracy when the foreign companies are Israeli.
It would be crass, and largely inaccurate, to chalk up Bamfords and Greenwalds obsessive focus on Israels supposed role in evil global conspiracies to simple anti-Semitism. Instead, the ideology that drives their tendency to see the NSA and Israel as two heads of the same Satanic beast is more complex and ideologically-drivenan attack on the doctrines of exceptionalism that fueled the rise of both America and Israel. Beginning in the 1960s, this idea that America and Israel were virtuous nations apart began to drive a certain segment of the global left nuts, and so they set off on a search for new heroes. The native, Jean-Paul Sartre wrote in the introduction to Frantz Fanons explosive The Wretched of the Earth, has only one choice, between servitude or sovereignty.
Violence, like Achilles lance, can heal the wounds that it has inflicted. Men of the left saw no problem with lending their reputations to terrorist organizations with nationalist aspirations that shared nothing of their humanistic and universalist ideologies, as long as these groups also hated America and Israel. In order for history to progress as it should, the New Chosen People had to displace the old, even if it meant a bizarre redrawing of political coalitions. We see remnants of this ideology still, in the philosopher Judith Butlers argument that Hamas and Hezbollah are somehow part of the global left, or in the recent movements against homonationalism, dedicated to condemning gay Israelis for being proud of their nations generally progressive policies regarding gay rights.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/glenn-greenwald-nsa-leaks-snowden