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Joe Cool

(1,013 posts)
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 12:47 PM Oct 2023

Hamas is attacking their own people as they flee south.

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Lithos (a host of the Israel/Palestine group).

But I´m sure someone will reply with ¨But Israel¨ to this post.

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Hamas is attacking their own people as they flee south. (Original Post) Joe Cool Oct 2023 OP
That isn't the first time they have done that. JohnSJ Oct 2023 #1
But yet many on DU seem to have more of a problem with Israel than Hamas. Joe Cool Oct 2023 #2
Hamas people or Palestinian? Throck Oct 2023 #3
Please cite source NoRethugFriends Oct 2023 #4
Happy now? Joe Cool Oct 2023 #10
Doesn't support the headline. NoRethugFriends Oct 2023 #26
Since when does hamas have fighter jets? questionseverything Oct 2023 #28
but why are they fleeing .. ? stopdiggin Oct 2023 #5
Because Hamas committed one of the worst atrocities in modern times Joe Cool Oct 2023 #11
See my #9. wnylib Oct 2023 #15
Do you have a news article to support this per forum rules? Eugene Oct 2023 #6
Here you go! Joe Cool Oct 2023 #12
The link does not say that. Eugene Oct 2023 #22
Source? RandySF Oct 2023 #7
Here Joe Cool Oct 2023 #14
But Israel...☮ but seriously, where did you see this? walkingman Oct 2023 #8
Here Joe Cool Oct 2023 #13
Makes me wonder if they want Palestinian civilians to remain in the north as shields. wnylib Oct 2023 #9
100% Joe Cool Oct 2023 #16
Israel is focused on two things, getting the hostages and annihilating Hamas. wnylib Oct 2023 #19
Post removed Post removed Oct 2023 #17
of which, once again, there is absolutely zero stopdiggin Oct 2023 #20
Not sure the point you are trying to make? The good folks here on DU are not walkingman Oct 2023 #23
The conflict was started long ago Redleg Oct 2023 #30
Article does not specify who was responsible NewHendoLib Oct 2023 #18
Makes zero sense that Israel would divert themselves from their wnylib Oct 2023 #21
You extrapolated my meaning from one short sentence? NewHendoLib Oct 2023 #24
Yes. wnylib Oct 2023 #32
. NewHendoLib Oct 2023 #34
Israel is dropping bombs out of planes questionseverything Oct 2023 #27
Hamas has drones. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #33
Hamas has rockets, missiles, and drones that drop explosives wnylib Oct 2023 #35
The yahoo article in post # 22 quotes eye witnesses saying questionseverything Oct 2023 #36
Do you have a source for this besides the one you posted upthread that says this: demmiblue Oct 2023 #25
Oh, I see you can no longer post on this thread. demmiblue Oct 2023 #31
Yes, we must be careful to never criticize the state of Israel Redleg Oct 2023 #29
Not surprised Rebl2 Oct 2023 #37
Locking Lithos Oct 2023 #38

JohnSJ

(96,551 posts)
1. That isn't the first time they have done that.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 12:50 PM
Oct 2023

Joe Cool

(1,013 posts)
2. But yet many on DU seem to have more of a problem with Israel than Hamas.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 12:51 PM
Oct 2023

Throck

(2,520 posts)
3. Hamas people or Palestinian?
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 12:52 PM
Oct 2023

Aren't they just using Palestinians as human shields?

NoRethugFriends

(2,997 posts)
4. Please cite source
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 12:52 PM
Oct 2023

NoRethugFriends

(2,997 posts)
26. Doesn't support the headline.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 01:24 PM
Oct 2023

Though it is certainly possible that it was done by Hamas

questionseverything

(10,151 posts)
28. Since when does hamas have fighter jets?
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 01:31 PM
Oct 2023

stopdiggin

(12,830 posts)
5. but why are they fleeing .. ?
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 12:52 PM
Oct 2023

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Joe Cool

(1,013 posts)
11. Because Hamas committed one of the worst atrocities in modern times
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 12:55 PM
Oct 2023

and Israel is rightfully retaliating.

wnylib

(24,405 posts)
15. See my #9.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 12:57 PM
Oct 2023

Eugene

(62,657 posts)
6. Do you have a news article to support this per forum rules?
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 12:53 PM
Oct 2023

Eugene

(62,657 posts)
22. The link does not say that.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 01:10 PM
Oct 2023

Another source reports an airstrike.

Palestinians fleeing along Israeli-designated 'evacuation route' in northern Gaza killed in airstrike

https://news.yahoo.com/palestinians-fleeing-along-israeli-designated-134533377.html

RandySF

(70,636 posts)
7. Source?
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 12:53 PM
Oct 2023

walkingman

(8,344 posts)
8. But Israel...☮ but seriously, where did you see this?
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 12:53 PM
Oct 2023

wnylib

(24,405 posts)
9. Makes me wonder if they want Palestinian civilians to remain in the north as shields.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 12:54 PM
Oct 2023

It also suggests that Israel's focus in the north has Hamas concerned about...? Israel finding hostages? Israel rooting out Hamas underground bunkers?

Joe Cool

(1,013 posts)
16. 100%
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 12:58 PM
Oct 2023

Hamas is sending the message that if you flee south, we will kill you. Animals, each and every one of them.

wnylib

(24,405 posts)
19. Israel is focused on two things, getting the hostages and annihilating Hamas.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 01:03 PM
Oct 2023

Hamas is focused solely on their own survival.

Response to Joe Cool (Original post)

stopdiggin

(12,830 posts)
20. of which, once again, there is absolutely zero
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 01:07 PM
Oct 2023

on this string. You were asked several times for source. Other than that - nada.

walkingman

(8,344 posts)
23. Not sure the point you are trying to make? The good folks here on DU are not
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 01:11 PM
Oct 2023

the bad guys. No one of for terrorists just not against the innocent Palestinians.

Redleg

(6,142 posts)
30. The conflict was started long ago
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 01:35 PM
Oct 2023

and both sides have done things to escalate it. Yes, I agree, this most recent action by Hamas is horrible and I agree Israel is right to pursue Hamas and protect their own people while abiding by the laws of warfare. Does this put me on the "wrong side?"

NewHendoLib

(60,504 posts)
18. Article does not specify who was responsible
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 01:00 PM
Oct 2023

wnylib

(24,405 posts)
21. Makes zero sense that Israel would divert themselves from their
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 01:08 PM
Oct 2023

2 primary goals, to get the hostages and to destroy Hamas. For Israel to attack fleeing civilians would divert Israel from its focus and goals. They want hostages and Hamas, not Palestinian civilians. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous.

NewHendoLib

(60,504 posts)
24. You extrapolated my meaning from one short sentence?
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 01:14 PM
Oct 2023

wnylib

(24,405 posts)
32. Yes.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 01:56 PM
Oct 2023

NewHendoLib

(60,504 posts)
34. .
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 02:01 PM
Oct 2023

questionseverything

(10,151 posts)
27. Israel is dropping bombs out of planes
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 01:28 PM
Oct 2023

Hamas doesn’t have planes so how could it be them?

Beastly Boy

(11,145 posts)
33. Hamas has drones.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 01:59 PM
Oct 2023

wnylib

(24,405 posts)
35. Hamas has rockets, missiles, and drones that drop explosives
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 02:11 PM
Oct 2023

questionseverything

(10,151 posts)
36. The yahoo article in post # 22 quotes eye witnesses saying
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 02:48 PM
Oct 2023

It was war planes

demmiblue

(37,849 posts)
25. Do you have a source for this besides the one you posted upthread that says this:
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 01:24 PM
Oct 2023
Videos authenticated by CNN showed a scene of extensive destruction following Friday’s blast on Salah Al-Deen street. A number of bodies, including those of children, can be seen on on a flat-bed trailer that appears to have been used to carry people away from Gaza City. There are also a number of badly burned and damaged cars.

It’s unclear what caused the widespread devastation. CNN has reached out to the IDF for comment on any airstrikes in the same location.


demmiblue

(37,849 posts)
31. Oh, I see you can no longer post on this thread.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 01:48 PM
Oct 2023

Redleg

(6,142 posts)
29. Yes, we must be careful to never criticize the state of Israel
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 01:32 PM
Oct 2023

This is getting old really quickly. It seems even the most minor critique of Israel is deemed anti-semitic or pro-terrorist.

For the record, I support the right of Israel to defend its people and lands. Israel also has an obligation to wage war according to the laws of warfare, regardless of whether Hamas does the same. Israel is in a tough situation, no doubt, whereas Hamas doesn't abide by the same restraints.

Rebl2

(14,709 posts)
37. Not surprised
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 03:52 PM
Oct 2023

Lithos

(26,453 posts)
38. Locking
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 07:52 PM
Oct 2023

Please see forum's statement of purpose

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