Lots of folks don't care at all how many kids get bombs dropped on them...

And there are tens of thousands armed Hamas assholes in Gaza who don't give a shit about Gazan civilians.

The math is not that difficult.

Vietnam was a war between two sovereign states. And yes, some US and Viet kong actions would be considered equally egregious by today's standards, but these standards were not in place back then.

Now, will you quit your gratuitous references to Vietnam already?

Seems like a lot of past History has been forgotten.

It's the Middle East, hatred there will continue till forever.

It would be ideal if peace had a chance, but that's not possible in our lifetime.

If you really want to address past history, which is long and complicated, I don't think this forum is an appropriate venue.

Children on the verge of starving may never recover their health. Polio has been reported in Gaza, and it’s obvious that routine vaccinations are not possible because Israel strictly limits both food and medicine from entering Gaza. I do not question Israel’s right to exist, but I do question the morality of what they are now doing in Gaza. Even their own military has said that Hamas cannot be excised by bombing, and the few Hamas fighters they manage to kill, mostly low-level foot soldiers, are at the expense of thousands of civilian lives. This war is now unjust.

Any plans for that in some not so distant future?

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""Everybody knows that 75% of the people in the Gaza Strip are refugees, and it is the responsibility of the United Nations to protect them," - Abu Marzouk, Hamas senior official
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-770918#:~:text=Hamas%20official%20Mousa%20Abu%20Marzouk%20said%20that%20the,ourselves%20from%20being%20targeted%20and%20killed%2C%22%20he%20claimed.

"Egypt Lost The Gaza Strip And Signed Peace Treaty With Israel, So It Has A Special Responsibility Towards Gaza" - Also Abu Marzouk https://www.memri.org/tv/snr-hamas-official-mousa-abou-marzouk-egypt-special-responsibility-gaza-enforce-ceasefire

"[The attacks are] just the first time … Will we have to pay a price? Yes, and we are ready to pay it. We are called a nation of martyrs, and we are proud to sacrifice martyrs.” -Ghazi Hamad, Hamas leader.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/watch-hamas-leader-vows-to-sacrifice-martyrs-in-another-oct-7-style-attack/ar-AA1jenHn

""Israel is a country that has no place on our land. We must remove that country, because it constitutes a security, military, and political catastrophe to the Arab and Islamic nation, and must be finished. We are not ashamed to say this, with full force."- Ghazi Hamad, Hamas leader

"These are necessary sacrifices”.- Yahya Sinwar, Hamas leader
https://www.yahoo.com/news/hamas-leader-believes-civilian-deaths-125855400.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall

“We make the headlines only with blood. No blood, no news.” - Aso Yahya Sinwar
https://foreigndesknews.com/top-story/gaza-chiefs-brutal-calculation-civilian-bloodshed-will-help-hamas/

""The high number of civilian casualties would create worldwide pressure on Israel," - Also Yahya Sinwar
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/hyyd1dssa

"“The blood of the women, children and elderly […] we are the ones who need this blood, so it awakens within us the revolutionary spirit, so it awakens with us resolve,” - Ismail Haniyeh, dead Hamas leader
https://www.jns.org/hamas-leader-we-need-the-blood-of-women-children-and-the-elderly-of-gaza/

"The Palestinian people are just like any other nation. No nation is liberated without sacrifices." - Khaled mashaal, Hamas leader
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/379867

The real masters of Gaza's fate, in their own words. And none of them asked Gazan civilians what they think about being martyred to create pressure on Israel, or how they feel about becoming necessary sacrifices. But feel free to point away from the villains. God forbid that they should ever be held accountable.