Creative Speculation
Related: About this forumThe Elon Musk post in relation to Paul Pelosi..will destroy his business.
While he will still be very rich, his "Tesla business" will be destroyed.
In the end, twitter may be destroyed too. There are lots of alternatives to twitter. Aren't there?
This is now getting world wide attention. I just read about it today.. Musk doesn't have a clue. While this has been
posted before, so it isn't "Late News" anymore,
In the end, Tesla will go bankrupt. Musk, like his hero: Donald Trump, doesn't know when to shut up. For a well
known media figure, that is OK.
......But it is NOT OK, for someone who owns a business that depends on widespread approval of buyers. Since now there
are major competitors to Tesla, buyers who don't approve of Musk's Pelosi comments, will buy something else.
...Also, there are competitors to "Twitter" which he just bought..aren't there?............
If all the people who are upset with Musk for his comments, pull out of Twitter and refuse buying Tesla, it could hurt
him forever. Maybe? We will all find out in a couple of months or more. But, it will take some time for this to get
all around. Because it will. People talking to other people, and repeat in the news media, it will take some time.
I just read about this today in Democratic Underground. The long term response to this stupidity will take a whole
lot of time. Musk clearly doesn't know ....WHEN TO SHUT THE F*** UP, but he will learn the hard way!
Ferrets are Cool
(21,957 posts)It's better we know what kind of persons they are, rather than having to guess.
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)brush
(57,471 posts)Botany
(72,475 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,957 posts)I won't check the tweet, but take your word for it.
Botany
(72,475 posts)But if you don't want to see their filth that is OK.
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)Botany
(72,475 posts)n/t
TheBlackAdder
(28,907 posts).
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rubbersole
(8,503 posts)Not only is it not stopping, it really appears that he couldn't care less.
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)I read about this comment today. He will care when his business goes broke, and his stock becomes worthless..............
............OH WAIT.....MUSK SOLD A LOT OF HIS STOCK DIDN'T HE? HE MADE BILLIONS...DIDN'T HE?
brush
(57,471 posts)Partially.
Salviati
(6,037 posts)... into the ground.
He's selling more stock to pay the debts he's incurred by financing the balance of his twitter bill, which runs at about a billion dollars a year now. It's not like he's selling the stock and just sitting on a pile of cash. He's selling stock to keep throwing money on the fire he's already started.
bucolic_frolic
(46,971 posts)Even illegal businesses know enough to try to occupy that space.
Eloon? He's onto something else.
stopdiggin
(12,817 posts)that the demographic purchasing Tesla vehicles would be alienated by a toxic media presence exhibited by Musk. I guess we'll have to wait and see, although - 1) Tesla just posted record profits for most recent quarter, and 2) while crescendoing in the last 4-5 months, Musk's off-putting views and personality have not really been a secret for some time (and thus, supposedly, to all those previous Tesla buyers).
Twitter is an entirely different set of parameters - with the platform's long term health most likely more dependent on whether 'advertisers' continue to steer clear - rather than the clearly massive, and almost completely dominant, pool of consumers and users. The latter seeming almost certainly not likely to change (note the little 'dust up' that happened here on DU has mostly come and gone) - and the former (with the typical feckless consideration of numbers over ethics) seem unlikely to persist in any sort of concerted action against an offending CEO, and toxic content. But, again, I suppose that remains to be seen.
In either case, the 'newest' revelations in regard to the Paul Pelosi case ...
(which are far from 'new'.) Are barely going to register as a blip on the radar
Salviati
(6,037 posts)But this has less to do with musk's toxic personality, and more to do with the fact that a business cannot survive when you axe 4 out of every 5 employees, seemingly with very little strategy. IMO, the loss of institutional knowledge is going to ultimately cause an increasing number of cascading failures and not bring musk the cost savings that were the whole point of the culling.
brush
(57,471 posts)calimary
(84,306 posts)Too much going on at the house.
OMGWTF
(4,441 posts)I always thought my next car would be a Tesla, but no longer. I'd be embarrassed to be associated with that jerkhole.
yellowdogintexas
(22,703 posts)I am looking at electric or hybrid if I can find one I can afford>
garybeck
(10,033 posts)The EV alone has fault minimal range, about 50 miles I believe. Intended for short commuters
GreenWave
(9,167 posts)yellowdogintexas
(22,703 posts)Love that blue too.
Hopefully I can locate some sort of affordable used car.
GreenWave
(9,167 posts)Oops. forgot the rest of my post. I am saving my SS to buy this puppy...
https://www.vw.com/en/models/id-4.html
PatrickforB
(15,109 posts)who surely should be held accountable for his destruction of a decent company (Twitter).
But here's the thing I think about:
In 2021, Twitter had 7,500 people working for it. People just like us. Working schmucks who need to put bread on the table, service whatever debt they have had to occur in the utopia of predatory capitalism that is today's America. Now, due to Musk's criminally sociopathic management, as of January this year, Twitter is down to 1,300 active, working employees, including fewer than 550 full-time engineers.
What this means is that since Musk slithered into the Twitter headquarters carrying a sink, of all things, 6,200 people have lost their jobs, at least temporarily, and have to suffer the upset of leaving an operation they believed in, and even loved, to find something new.
We also need to be mindful, lest we make the mistake of wishing Tesla into bankruptcy just because the dirt-bag Musk owns it, that Tesla employs over 99,000 people. Wishing bankruptcy on Tesla because we dislike (quite rightly) Elon Musk could also destroy the financial lives of nearly a hundred thousand working people. Plus, many who work at Tesla probably got into it because they have the ideal of making a better world through decreasing carbon emissions. Even the simplest team assemler on the factory floor must take pride in doing their part.
I just think that wishing Tesla to go bankrupt because we don't like its owner could hurt thousands of working families, and have an adverse effect on thousands of other working families who work in businesses Tesla employees buy their stuff from.
ShazzieB
(18,641 posts)I have no idea what post this was or what it said. It would be nice to know...guess I need to look around DU and see if I can find it somewhere.
garybeck
(10,033 posts)could you copy/paste what he said into your post or give a link? not everyone knows what you're talking about.