at old DU didn't come over to new DU. Also, I know there were some who objected to anything but 9/11 theories being posted in the 9/11 group, so maybe that has something to do with it too. To some 9/11 theorists, Creative Speculation might seem too inclusive.

The mod or mods "controlled" the 911 thread right the hell out of existence, because they couldn't stand the heat.

That is all.

Tell us how active the truth movement is these days in real life.
Please....I need more laughs.

...for everything else... there's MasterCard

You have NOTHING to add to ANY of these discussions but sneering derision....take your bullying ass somewhere else why don't you?

I will treat you and the rest of the truthers exactly as they deserve.
Sneering derision will work fine.
Come back with some facts, Jack!
In the meantime...

...c'mon champ, one more parting shot before I put your willfully ignorant ass on ignore...

I'm paid to coverup 9/11 by going on an internet forum and telling you that you are full of steaming bullshit.
But, I might one day turn on my masters and reveal the truth.
You wouldn't want to miss that would you?

Truthers are hilarious, I'll give you that mate!

Welcome to ignore!!

... is a brutal post 9/11 reality, pretty much disconcerned with the effrects of ensuing wars, but right there to support the lies that made war happen. It's a sham you find worth fighting for because of undisclosed loyalties. You don't really debate but rely primarily in insults and pleasure taken in frustrating valid efforts to address the facts.

Most of the 9-11 issues have been talked about, hashed and rehashed over and over again.

We have all made up our minds and there doesn't seem to be much point in discussing the same issues into infinity.

probably half of the threads in 9/11 at DU2 were started in GD and moved to the dungeon.

Sid

There was just a "Colorado Shooter CIA Mind Control, blah, blah" thread over in Video & Multimedia.

It was better when they could be moved somewhere they belong. I wasn't finished with that turd of a thread.

The other part of it is that the general "don't go into crazytown" rule is more uniformly applied across DU, so we don't have as much crazytown stuff.

there seems to be much less tolerance for certain CT nuttery then there used to be.

I am not seeing any chemtrails this summer and now there is a drought.
This forum was damn hard to find.

Took some of the wind out of the 9-11 Crazywhacko Brigade's sails.

He always had a way of heating up the 9/11 forum!

would post a doozy. He was (is?) one of a kind

He also had a nemesis who always posted there, with Teddy Kennedy in his avatar. His name was SDSour-something.

But I may be wrong...

to protect the homeland. 60 Minutes put Soufan's conspiracy garbage to bed with amazing (dare I say breathtaking) reporting not seen in these parts since the dawn of humanity.

The 9/11 authoritarians were right. There is nothing to question. All the secrecy is justified for reasons of national security.

and created their own entirely new and even less believable conspiracy theories.

permitted in the old forum on DU2 simply was no longer allowed, per the revised TOS, once DU3 rolled out. In fact, the welcome change for very limited tolerance for the standard nutty CT'er bullshit we had to put up with on DU2 is referenced twice in the DU3 TOS:

Don't be a wingnut (right-wing or extreme-fringe).
Democratic Underground is an online community for politically liberal people who understand the importance of working within the system to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of political office. Teabaggers, Neo-cons, Dittoheads, Paulites, Freepers, Birthers, and right-wingers in general are not welcome here. Neither are certain extreme-fringe left-wingers, including advocates of violent political/social change, hard-line communists, terrorist-apologists, America-haters, kooks, crackpots, LaRouchies, and the like. - emphasis added.

Don't go overboard with the crazy talk.
Democratic Underground is not intended to be a platform for kooks and crackpots peddling paranoid fantasies with little or no basis in fact. To accommodate our more imaginative members we tolerate some limited discussion of so-called "conspiracy theories" under the following circumstances: First, those discussions are not permitted in our heavily-trafficked Main forums; and second, those discussions cannot stray too far into Crazyland (eg: chemtrails, black helicopters, 9/11 death rays or holograms, the "New World Order," the Bilderbergers, the Illuminati, the Trilateral Commission, the Freemasons, alien abduction, Bigfoot, and the like). In addition, please be aware that many conspiracy theories have roots in racism and anti-semitism, and Democratic Underground has zero tolerance for bigoted hate speech. In short, you take your chances.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

What I noticed happening not long after DU3 rolled out, is that the not-so-bright among the regular CT'er crowd ignored the new TOS and the fair warnings given, and kept right on with their fanatical, lunatic speculations. PPR's soon followed, and not a moment too soon. The more perceptive among them simply avoid "Creative Speculation," knowing full well that if they indulged their desire to pontificate on chemtrails and moonbeams and the like, they would be shown the proverbial door. I can think of several prolific CT posters who haven't been seen down here in months, and I suspect for those very reasons.

One welcome side-benefit of all of this is we see less of the deliberate rule-breaking that CT'ers frequently engaged in on DU2 just because they could with few repercussions as regards General Discussion.

On DU2, you would frequently see CT'ers brazenly post obvious conspiracy theory material in GD knowing full well (a) they were breaking the rules and (b) that it would eventually get moved to the 911 forum. They did this because they wanted at least a portion of the much larger audience in GD to follow them down into the 911 dungeon to comment on their goofy speculations, especially on a busy news day when the mods were backed up with more pressing alerts regarding more serious rules violations.

I once asked a CT'er why, knowing the rules against doing so, she simply went right ahead and did it anyway - and she basically told me that she did it because she could, and that it was far more important that people knew about the loony conspiracy theory she was peddling than following some rules on a discussion board. In other words, she felt herself above the rules, as the vast majority of CT'ers do: their "cause" is just "too important" to waste time observing the proprieties, you see.

Now, with the new DU3 TOS, your average CT'er is well aware that it is likely they will simply be banned outright for posting CT'er bullshit in GD, as opposed to the thread simply being moved down here with no repercussions whatsoever. That has been a welcome respite to what went on at DU2, where we seemed to get a spurt of CT'er bullshit on the main pages at least once every couple of weeks or so, especially if some natural disaster, 911/JFK anniversary, or spy-related story was dominating the news cycle.

the CT board in order to appease the Mexican Illuminati.

There was a guy over there that would post the best CT stuff. Can't remember his name, but SDuderstadt fought him tooth and nail in just about every one of those threads. There was hologram airplane stuff, hologram jumper stuff, alien moonbase stuff, all kindsa cool shit. Those threads were great to jump in on or just to read, but I think both of those vatos are gone now.

EDIT: I just read upthread. Spooked was the other guy.

You could show him three kinds of documentation to disprove his theory and he's just claim that everybody was in on the conspiracy.

I kinda miss Abe...

The one who thought the towers had c4 coated rebar in a concrete core. I think he's been banned from every 9/11-related discussion forum on the internet.

Today, conspiracy theories, or rather conspiracy culture, is again almost exclusively something that comes from the right.

While I believe that some pertinent questions regarding 9/11 should still be answered (Richard Blee, for god's sake...), I do not miss the 9/11 CT woo. Most of it was too stupid to even answer - although, in all honesty, I must admit that most of my serious research into this topic was piqued by the old DU2 forum... But I'm talking the golden age of 9/11 twooth here.. 2003/2004.. Back when the holo-madness /mashup crazyness began.. What was it called.. YDK2 ..something like that.. the long haired german crazy guy vs. the alex jones types.. Ah.. Miss the golden times...