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Mike Deeson, WTSP September 11, 2014
Sarasota, Florida -- On the eve of the 13th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, we are now learning of allegations of a major FBI cover-up that connects Sarasota and the 9/11 hijackers to the Saudi Arabian government. As 10 Investigates discovered, there is a growing chorus calling for the reopening of the 9/11 investigation and it is being led by one of Florida's most influential leaders: former Senator Bob Graham, (D- FLA).
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...According to Graham, the FBI has been covering up that fact for years, and continues to try and hide it even now. Graham says he is convinced there was a direct line between some of the terrorists who carried out the September 11th attacks and the government of Saudi Arabia.
Graham says the U.S. government doesn't want the American public to find out the Saudis financed the attack, because we provide billions in military aid to Saudi Arabia. "That would certainly change our attitude toward arming Saudi Arabia," Graham says...
...The FBI claims it turned over all of its 9/11 files to the Congressional Committee. But Graham -- who also headed the Congressional Committee Investigation into 9/11 --says he asked other commission members who confirmed they did not receive any documents from the FBI concerning the Sarasota investigation...
..After having said there were 'no' documents about the investigation in Sarasota, 'no' has now become 80,000 pages." Graham adds,"I think that should be stunning...
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http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/investigations/2014/09/10/911-cover-up-fbi-former-senator-bob-graham/15401795/
In our next story, we will tell you all about what the new documents reveal and why Graham and other members of Congress are concerned.
Part 2:
...The Tampa Division of the FBI was aware of a man visiting Florida from Tunisia who went to a dumpster in Bradenton to dispose of several items including:
*A manual on terrorism and Jihad.
*Flight training information from the flight school the 9/11 hijackers trained at.
*A map of an unnamed airport.
*Printed maps of Publix shopping centers in Tampa Bay
But the FBI never informed Congress, despite telling them it released "all the documentation pertaining to the 9/11 investigation."...
http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/investigations/2014/09/11/bob-graham-fbi-911-coverup/15456013/
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)nationalize the fed
(2,169 posts)The Official Story Fan Club seems to be absent on the threads that talk about the 28 censored pages.
Why is that?
Do they care what has been hidden from them? Obviously not too much.
Funny? No, sad.
William Seger
(11,262 posts)... that this a report by the 9/11 Commission about who supported the 19 Islamist terrorists in their attack on the WTC and the Pentagon, and that most people would say that is the "Official Story?"
Or am I just unaware of how the "truth movement" intends to spin that as supporting their magical silent explosives delusions? That, I'd like to hear.
nationalize the fed
(2,169 posts)Your grasp of the details in this matter is less than impressive.
The 28 pages were censored from the "Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities before and after the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001" and are completely separate from the 911 commission report.
The Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities before and after the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001 is the official name of the inquiry conducted by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence into the activities of the U.S. Intelligence Community in connection with the September 11, 2001 attacks. The investigation began in February 2002 and the final report was released in December 2002.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Inquiry_into_Intelligence_Community_Activities_before_and_after_the_Terrorist_Attacks_of_September_11,_2001
What other things regarding 911 are you confused about?
William Seger: Or am I just unaware of how the "truth movement" intends to spin that as supporting their magical silent explosives delusions? That, I'd like to hear.
Why do so many truth bashers assume that those that seek further answers all believe the same thing(s)? "Silent explosives delusions" ? Can you find a quote of mine in this forum where I have stated that there were "silent explosives" used?
I don't know what happened. That's why I want further investigations.
And while I'm on this topic, do you have an idea of why the Bush administration did not want any investigations WHATSOEVER into the most spectacular crime against the US in history?
Just think for a second how ludicrous this is. 19 Arabs with box cutters hijacked 4 different airplanes on the same day while every single intelligence and defense agency failed at the same time and the administration doesn't want an investigation into these crimes? And it took the efforts of the victim's families to get one started? And then it was underfunded and originally to be chaired by Henry Kissinger, who withdrew because he didn't want to name his clients?
And when finally Dick and W do testify they demanded that they not be under oath. That makes sense doesn't it Billy.
Sheesh.
"Those that oppose truth seekers prefer falsehoods and lies"- Paul Eccleston
William Seger
(11,262 posts)... but it is a report is about who supported the 19 Islamist terrorists in the plot to attack the WTC and Pentagon, i.e. the "Official Story" as you call it. I don't know anyone who doesn't want that report released, so it's still not clear to me what you meant by this:
> The Official Story Fan Club seems to be absent on the threads that talk about the 28 censored pages.
Maybe it's your misconceptions about an "Official Story Fan Club?" Do you really mean people around here who oppose the "truth movement" spreading bullshit? I'm not expecting anything in the report to support the Bullshit Fan Club, but there's not much more to be said until it's released.
> Why do so many truth bashers assume that those that seek further answers all believe the same thing(s)? "Silent explosives delusions" ? Can you find a quote of mine in this forum where I have stated that there were "silent explosives" used?
Well, I assumed that from the rather large number of postings you have made featuring people who claim that explosives were used, and if they were, then they must have been of the magical silent type. Do you think it's "bashing the truth" to claim that no such thing exists? Do you think it's "bashing the truth" to point out that Gage's "experts" don't know what they're talking about?
> "Those that oppose truth seekers prefer falsehoods and lies"- Paul Eccleston
Yes, I've noticed that while seeking the truth about magical silent explosives bringing down the buildings.
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)The 28 pages it seems will reveal that the Saudi's funded the hijackers who probably didn't know they were going to die and may not be the ones we were told anyway. Certain rogue CIA persons working for the Cheney/PNAC cabal were their handlers and helped to implement the attacks by possibly remotely controlling those planes and ramming them into their intended targets. Also I'd speculate that the individuals that planted the thermate and explosives have been eliminated as any other loose ends. That's why they didn't reveal the info on the black boxes and videos of the pentagon attack and other records. All of this is just my speculation of course without evidence which requires a real and independent investigation which we all know you are against.
Any questions?
nationalize the fed
(2,169 posts)Written by Professional Pilot Phillip Marshall
WANT ANSWERS? WHO TRAINED THE 9/11 HIJACKERS TO FLY BOEING JETLINERS
The hijackers training records from several U.S. flight schools indicate that they were marginal pilots, at best, even in single-engine airplanes. In early 2000, three of the pilot/hijackers are heavily documented at a small flight school near Venice, Florida, while the fourth attended schools in Arizona and California. This would account for the basic flight training of the pilots but in no way can explain the expert level of airmanship required for the 911 hit...
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...There are two different worlds in aviation the general single-engine airplane world with a service ceiling of 10,000 feet and a top speed of around 200 miles per hour, and the commercial swept-wing jetliner world at 40,000 feet and Mach numbers for speed calculations. Little within that first world prepares the pilot for the second, high-altitude world.
So began my search for Middle Eastern operators of Boeing airliners. Because the hijackers were mostly Saudi Arabian, the firm of Dallah Avco, a Saudi operator of multiple private Boeing airliners, soon stood out as a focal point. To my amazement, I immediately discovered that Congressional investigators had already linked Dallah Avco with the actual hijackers. Omar Bayoumi, a Dallah employee and operative within the Saudi Ministry of Aviation, had provided housing and basic support for three hijackers: Nawaf al-Hazmi, Khalid al-Mihdhar and the pilot/hijacker of American 77, Hani Hanjour.
FBI evidence of the cell would confirm that the hijacking team of American 77 had formed and operated separately with direct financial support from top-level members of the Saudi government, bitter enemies of al Qaeda. The picture was beginning to clear.
From this point in the research, the guilt needle began pointing steadily toward Saudi Arabia, in part because 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis. With every new piece of evidence, that needle does not fluctuate. As the focus narrowed on San Diego, the footprints of a large Saudi contingent began to appear...
http://thebigbamboozle.tumblr.com/post/40856537710/want-answers-who-trained-the-9-11-hijackers-to-fly
A Must read. Phillip Marshall spent years on this research. We could ask him for details but he's dead. About a month after the above was posted he was a victim of "suicide". The sheriffs never released any physical evidence, TMK.
Here's Phil on Coast to Coast. If you haven't heard it it's highly recommended.
Fun with Google Earth: 32°30′35″N 111°19′31″W
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)of "The Big Bamboozle" but just got it recently and have yet to read it. Looking forward to it though.
William Seger
(11,262 posts)It would have been nice if you had come up with something somewhat plausible, but I understand the difficulty in doing that.
> All of this is just my speculation of course without evidence which requires a real and independent investigation which we all know you are against.
What I've said is, if "truthers" get their wish for another investigation into Gage's controlled demolition bullshit, real experts are not going to buy it, but "truthers" are not going to buy anything else. But you assume too much; I'm not against another investigation into the serious questions about 9/11, and Richard Gage has done far more than I have to thwart that effort. And actually, I think an investigation into Gage's claims would be pretty entertaining, so I'm not really opposed to that, either.
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)His concern started early and coincided with the omissions of the farce of a commission's report.