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oxymoron

(4,053 posts) Sat Nov 19, 2022, 07:43 PM Nov 2022

Mormons Gay Marriage Shift is NOT Support For Marriage Equality;Slimy Attempt to Undermine Civil Rig

(Reuters) – The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints said on Tuesday it supports proposed federal legislation intended to protect gay-marriage rights, as long as it also protects the right of religious groups to believe such unions are against God’s word.

The Utah-based church said in a statement posted on its website its doctrine related to marriage – that God commanded it be between a man and a woman – would remain unchanged.

But the church said it would support the legislation after a bipartisan group of senators negotiated an amendment to the version passed by the U.S. House in July. The change states that the bill would have no impact on religious liberties protected under the U.S. Constitution.

Specifically, the Senate version states no church can face a civil lawsuit or other legal action for refusing to provide any service or access to its facilities for any marriage it opposes.

The Senate is expected to approve its version of the “Respect for Marriage Act” as soon as this week.

https://www.towleroad.com/2022/11/mormons-gay-marriage-slimy-attempt/

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Mormons Gay Marriage Shift is NOT Support For Marriage Equality;Slimy Attempt to Undermine Civil Rig (Original Post) oxymoron Nov 2022 OP

Short and sweet,... magicarpet Nov 2022 #1

The bill means that the church can't prevent people from being legally married, enough Nov 2022 #2

It also strips gay peoples right to civil recourse. oxymoron Nov 2022 #3

That part of the law is a bit silly, imo. ShazzieB Nov 2022 #4

magicarpet

(16,518 posts)

1. Short and sweet,...

Reply to oxymoron (Original post)

Sat Nov 19, 2022, 07:53 PM

Nov 2022

We don't believe in your Constitutional Rights,..

We only believe in our Constitutional Rights.

Because the buy-bull-shit,....

enough

(13,455 posts)

2. The bill means that the church can't prevent people from being legally married,

Reply to magicarpet (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 19, 2022, 08:10 PM

Nov 2022

also the state can’t force churches to marry people they don’t believe should be married. The right to marry doesn’t mean you can be married in any church you choose. It means you have the right to be legally married.

oxymoron

(4,053 posts)

3. It also strips gay peoples right to civil recourse.

Reply to enough (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:02 PM

Nov 2022

"Specifically, the Senate version states no church can face a civil lawsuit or other legal action for refusing to provide any service or access to its facilities for any marriage it opposes."

"Provide any service" is the verbiage that I find the most alarming. This could apply to any discrimination at any church run entity, such as employment discrimination at church-run accredited colleges, "mental health" or "social services" that are harmful, and it's unclear about abuse.

That seems like a helluva trade off.

ShazzieB

(18,675 posts)

4. That part of the law is a bit silly, imo.

Reply to enough (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 20, 2022, 01:36 AM

Nov 2022

That provision is totally unnecessary. Every church, denomination, religion, etc, aiready makes its own rules for who can get married there and always has. They probably put that in to pacify the nutjobs that would be screaming (falsely) about being forced to perform same sex marriages otherwise. It really doesn't change a thing.

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