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sarchasm

(1,228 posts) Fri Feb 12, 2021, 11:17 AM Feb 2021

Tennessee Lawmakers Introduce Bill To Allow Fathers To Veto Abortions

A bill introduced in the Tennessee General Assembly this week would allow a man who gets a woman pregnant to request an injunction barring her from having an abortion.

The legislation, SB0494 in the Senate and HB1079 in the House, would require a court hearing to be held within 14 days of a petition being filed by the individual seeking an injunction.

At the hearing, if the man can prove that he is the biological father and that there is a “reasonable probability” that the woman would obtain an abortion, the court shall issue an injunction prohibiting her from terminating the pregnancy. Proof of parenthood requires only that the petitioner acknowledges paternity. A DNA test is not required.

If the woman violates the injunction by obtaining an abortion, the court may hold her in civil or criminal contempt. There are no exceptions for rape or incest.

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tennessee-lawmakers-introduce-bill-allow-fathers-veto-abortions_n_6025ae58c5b6f88289fa797a

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Tennessee Lawmakers Introduce Bill To Allow Fathers To Veto Abortions (Original Post) sarchasm Feb 2021 OP

No words... 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2021 #1

If men got pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament! SheltieLover Feb 2021 #2

And you could get one at every bar. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #9

Or pharmacy or... SheltieLover Feb 2021 #15

Or tattoo parlor Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #16

Awwwww I'll bet your Malti is a doll! SheltieLover Feb 2021 #17

He is a doll baby, but a 6 lb boss of the world. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #18

The rapist protection law Walleye Feb 2021 #3

Oh, for Heaven's sake. Laelth Feb 2021 #4

I can hardly read this article through the anger I'm feeling. CrispyQ Feb 2021 #5

I am with you. It seems an obvious argument. Except that the gestational slavers do not see niyad Feb 2021 #10

RePutinican legislators are abhorrent people. NoMoreRepugs Feb 2021 #6

The WAR ON WOMEN continues apace. Thank you so much for posting this disturbing and niyad Feb 2021 #7

Any man filing request for an injunction should be required to post Ilsa Feb 2021 #8

Have to wonder if Tenn. legislative geniuses are still pushing the periodic empedocles Feb 2021 #11

well, at least they have cut to the chase. mopinko Feb 2021 #12

And no man can get a prescription for Viagra GopherGal Feb 2021 #13

Can they do dna match to a father before the childs birth? Srkdqltr Feb 2021 #14

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,887 posts)

1. No words...

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Fri Feb 12, 2021, 11:18 AM

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SheltieLover

(59,605 posts)

2. If men got pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament!

Reply to sarchasm (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2021, 11:19 AM

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Irish_Dem

(57,435 posts)

9. And you could get one at every bar.

Reply to SheltieLover (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 12, 2021, 11:34 AM

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SheltieLover

(59,605 posts)

15. Or pharmacy or...

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 12, 2021, 07:32 PM

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Irish_Dem

(57,435 posts)

16. Or tattoo parlor

Reply to SheltieLover (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 12, 2021, 07:35 PM

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Hi Sheltie!
You should call me MaltieLover, since my dog is a little Maltese!

SheltieLover

(59,605 posts)

17. Awwwww I'll bet your Malti is a doll!

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 12, 2021, 07:44 PM

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Irish_Dem

(57,435 posts)

18. He is a doll baby, but a 6 lb boss of the world.

Reply to SheltieLover (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 12, 2021, 07:46 PM

Feb 2021

Very vocal and connected to people.
A large personality in a small package.

Walleye

(35,663 posts)

3. The rapist protection law

Reply to sarchasm (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2021, 11:19 AM

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Laelth

(32,017 posts)

4. Oh, for Heaven's sake.

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Fri Feb 12, 2021, 11:20 AM

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The TN legislature is WAY out of step with the majority of the people who live in the state. I am certain that TN isn’t even close to being this backwards.

-Laelth

CrispyQ

(38,245 posts)

5. I can hardly read this article through the anger I'm feeling.

Reply to sarchasm (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2021, 11:23 AM

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When are the pro-choice groups going to wake up & start adding the Thirteenth Amendment to our arsenal in this fight for women's autonomy?

2010
Forced Labor, Revisited: The Thirteenth Amendment and Abortion
Andrew Koppelman
Northwestern University School of Law, akoppelman@law.northwestern.edu

https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1031&context=facultyworkingpapers

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I. The basic argument The Thirteenth Amendment reads as follows:

1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

2. Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

My claim is that the amendment is violated by laws that prohibit abortion. When women are compelled to carry and bear children, they are subjected to "involuntary servitude" in violation of the amendment. Abortion prohibitions violate the Amendment's guarantee of personal liberty, because forced pregnancy and childbirth, by compelling the woman to serve the fetus, creates "that control by which the personal service of one man [sic] is disposed of or coerced for another's benefit which is the essence of involuntary servitude."6

Such laws violate the amendment's guarantee of equality, because forcing women to be mothers makes them into a servant caste, a group which, by virtue of a status of birth, is held subject to a special duty to serve others and not themselves.

Parents can't be forced to donate their organs to their child, even to save the child's life. Why does a fetus have more claim on a woman's body than her child who has been born?

THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION A WOMAN CAN MAKE ISN'T YOURS.

niyad

(119,909 posts)

10. I am with you. It seems an obvious argument. Except that the gestational slavers do not see

Reply to CrispyQ (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 12, 2021, 11:34 AM

Feb 2021

women as actual people, but rather as brood mares, chattel.

NoMoreRepugs

(10,514 posts)

6. RePutinican legislators are abhorrent people.

Reply to sarchasm (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2021, 11:27 AM

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niyad

(119,909 posts)

7. The WAR ON WOMEN continues apace. Thank you so much for posting this disturbing and

Reply to sarchasm (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2021, 11:30 AM

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important piece.

Ilsa

(62,238 posts)

8. Any man filing request for an injunction should be required to post

Reply to sarchasm (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2021, 11:33 AM

Feb 2021

a $5million CD for the medical costs and other costs of raising that child. We know

TN trying to tie victims and their children to rapists forever.

If I was of childbearing age, I'd move out of TN if I lived there.