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Brilliant observation from Jimmy Carter. (Original Post) japple Jul 2014 OP
+100% - n/t mazzarro Jul 2014 #1
He's still eligible for a second term as President. George II Jul 2014 #2
Atheists for Carter! tecelote Jul 2014 #3
Count me in! Only votes I ever cast without holding my nose at all. nt Mnemosyne Jul 2014 #6
Works for me. If we must rehash history, we could do much worse. nt raouldukelives Jul 2014 #45
My vote in a heartbeat. SomeGuyInEagan Jul 2014 #55
Jimmy Carter is a fabulous Triana Jul 2014 #4
Yeah. Consider the source - the bottom of the barrel punching up at him. And NEVER even getting calimary Jul 2014 #7
He had a cool brother too! BobbyBoring Jul 2014 #9
That would be rare. Billy Beer ate through the can. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #14
Really? BobbyBoring Jul 2014 #21
Cans back then were different. So were pull tabs. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #22
OMGawd! littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #28
Recycling lessons. nt littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #29
Damn.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #31
A new dance maybe? littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #35
Tabs Popping. littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #36
Found this too.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #23
In my family, we would buy Christmas gifts for all of the kids, CrispyQ Jul 2014 #47
I've got a 6 pack of it! 7962 Jul 2014 #59
^eom littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #27
If I could he would be the first I would invite PumpkinAle Jul 2014 #5
Best DU thread I've read in a while. I went to hear JC speak once, and got his autograph. LOVE. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #8
^eom littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #30
k and r with thanks for this wonderful human being. niyad Jul 2014 #10
First & best president I ever voted for, twice. rickyhall Jul 2014 #11
I like JC, but Cartoonist Jul 2014 #12
I guess you could,...you know,....forgive. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #15
Forgive? Cartoonist Jul 2014 #19
Traditionally, those women were charged with witchcraft. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #20
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #13
Indeed. eom littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #32
Yes, indeed. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #34
Those of us who live in Georgia have the privilege of voting for Jimmy & japple Jul 2014 #16
Sam Nunn was more than a little bit racist. JayhawkSD Jul 2014 #25
I did not realize that Sam Nunn was a racist. His daughter, Michelle, certainly seems very japple Jul 2014 #63
It's been too many years. JayhawkSD Jul 2014 #68
Here's hoping the voters are able to set things right! n/t truedelphi Jul 2014 #58
Thank you for voting for both of them. TNNurse Jul 2014 #60
If you want to establish dual residency in my district, I'll be happy to rent japple Jul 2014 #64
I am fairly sure that is not legal TNNurse Jul 2014 #65
I guess I should have posted the sarcasm smilie. I get in trouble every single japple Jul 2014 #73
He's right, of course, but a little too generous to the "holy teachings." DirkGently Jul 2014 #17
He's Our Best Ex President Ever colsohlibgal Jul 2014 #18
I completely agree. BobTheSubgenius Jul 2014 #24
Great moniker and I love the art. *L* nt littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #39
K&R. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #26
Thanks for the good news. littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #33
DUer I'd like to meet. littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #37
Bookmark. nt littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #38
If we'd listened to him back then... americannightmare Jul 2014 #40
I did listen and I rejected Reagan. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #42
and don't forget John Anderson... CTyankee Jul 2014 #44
I had forgotten John Anderson until you reminded me. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #50
Ah, John Anderson ... SomeGuyInEagan Jul 2014 #57
no, there were not. a lot of so-called democrats bought his bs noiretextatique Jul 2014 #54
If He Listened 4Q2u2 Jul 2014 #46
No, most Americans, including most Democrats... americannightmare Jul 2014 #70
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #41
Thank you, President Carter. democrank Jul 2014 #43
I love Jimmy Carter! stage left Jul 2014 #48
Jimmy Carter, a real Democrat for the People. nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #49
Yes the Pious 4Q2u2 Jul 2014 #53
He had principles. More than I can say for some that would bow down to George Bush. nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #56
A lot of those Principles are bashed here on DU regularly 4Q2u2 Jul 2014 #69
My reference to Bush has nothing to do with you. I was simply saying that I rate rhett o rick Jul 2014 #71
Yes 4Q2u2 Jul 2014 #72
I'd argue that subjugating women is the very basic PURPOSE of the Big Three monotheisms. Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #51
Historically they certainly have been used that way. n/t Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #62
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #52
Jimmeh! AzDar Jul 2014 #61
What Jimmy Carter Iwillnevergiveup Jul 2014 #66
Hello MrMickeysMom Jul 2014 #67
 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
4. Jimmy Carter is a fabulous
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 08:03 PM
Jul 2014

human being. And a very wise man, regardless how much the psychopathic right lambasted him.

calimary

(84,306 posts)
7. Yeah. Consider the source - the bottom of the barrel punching up at him. And NEVER even getting
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 08:20 PM
Jul 2014

close. They can't touch Jimmy Carter. He stands - no. He TOWERS so far above these pipsqueaks, MILES above them, in stature that they'll never reach even a few feet up. They'll get nose-bleeds after the first few inches.

BobbyBoring

(1,965 posts)
9. He had a cool brother too!
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 08:48 PM
Jul 2014

I wish I still had an unopened 6 pack of Billy Beer!
Some asshole drank it at a party at my house. WARM! I know some beers are good warm, but I don't think Billy is among them.
Back to Jimmy, here's another guy that inherited a shitty state of the union. He deserves a lot more credit then he gets!

littlemissmartypants

(25,483 posts)
28. OMGawd!
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 12:29 AM
Jul 2014

I pulled tabs for an hour today. I like danger and making noise.
HeeHee

*witch laugh*

I am fun at parties too.

CrispyQ

(38,238 posts)
47. In my family, we would buy Christmas gifts for all of the kids,
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 09:23 AM
Jul 2014

but the adults would do a secret Santa where you get to choose a new gift from the pile or you can 'steal' someone else's gift. I brought a case of Billy Beer & it was the most 'stolen' gift that year. We laughed so hard. It was one of the best times.

Love Jimmy Carter.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
8. Best DU thread I've read in a while. I went to hear JC speak once, and got his autograph. LOVE.
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 08:29 PM
Jul 2014

And it is only for his years that my soon-to-be-90-year-old mother has any money, because of CD rates then.

Cartoonist

(7,529 posts)
12. I like JC, but
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 08:53 PM
Jul 2014

Doing the former is not what religion is about in the first place. The bible blames it all on Eve. How do you interpret that?

Cartoonist

(7,529 posts)
19. Forgive?
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 09:45 PM
Jul 2014

That would mean you would have to agree with the charge of guilt in the first place. I suppose I could forgive the writer of Genesis, but women don't have to answer for what the Bible says.

japple

(10,317 posts)
16. Those of us who live in Georgia have the privilege of voting for Jimmy &
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 09:24 PM
Jul 2014

Roslyn Carter's grandson, Jason, for Governor of Georgia and (added bonus) for Michelle Nunn (daugher of Sam Nunn) for State Senator to fill the seat being vacated by Saxby (bleath) Chambliss. I voted for both in the primaries and cannot wait to cast my ballot for these two in our general election. Georgia is on the road to success with Jason and Michelle on our side.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
25. Sam Nunn was more than a little bit racist.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 12:00 AM
Jul 2014

But he was a product of his generation and, given the times, less racist than most white men from Georgia. He remains one of the finest legislators our nation has ever known, and I have always wanted him to run for president so that I could vote for him. What the hell, vote? I would campaign for him.

As to Jimmy Carter, I have never known of a man with greater courage and higher ethical standards.

japple

(10,317 posts)
63. I did not realize that Sam Nunn was a racist. His daughter, Michelle, certainly seems very
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 05:37 PM
Jul 2014

thoughtful, fair and a champion of the downtrodden. Do you have any sources for your claims of her father's racism?

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
68. It's been too many years.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:33 AM
Jul 2014

I was living in Georgia (Atlanta) when he was a Senator, and I listened to probably 500 of his speeches and followed his voting record in the Senate quite carefully. I've been gone from Georgia for many years and know nothing of his daughter.

TNNurse

(7,121 posts)
60. Thank you for voting for both of them.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:48 PM
Jul 2014

I am a native Georgian but have not lived there in years. I live in TN and wanted to move south to vote for them or north to KY to vote for Allison Grimes to beat McConnell. I stayed here, little problem with long term job and health issues.

japple

(10,317 posts)
64. If you want to establish dual residency in my district, I'll be happy to rent
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 05:40 PM
Jul 2014

a room out to you!!! Hahahah!

japple

(10,317 posts)
73. I guess I should have posted the sarcasm smilie. I get in trouble every single
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 07:54 PM
Jul 2014

time I assume that someone might recognize sarcasm in one of my posts. Never again.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
17. He's right, of course, but a little too generous to the "holy teachings."
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 09:37 PM
Jul 2014

Some of the "subjugation" part is actually in those "holy teachings," as we know. Yet religious leaders manage to interpret their way around a lot of the other bad ideas when they see fit. The choice they keep making is to keep misogynistic ideas on the playlist even after things things like, say, slavery and infanticide have been, if only tacitly, recognized as unacceptable.

colsohlibgal

(5,276 posts)
18. He's Our Best Ex President Ever
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 09:37 PM
Jul 2014

He also would have been a 2 term president, very likely, minus the "October Surprise" orchestrated by Reagan's people. That shenanigan mirrors what Nixon did to LBJ with Vietnam. Then you look at Dubya who was installed, not elected - so that leaves Poppy Bush but he rode Reagan's coattails. So, as Thom Hartmann was talking about the other day, the last legit republican president, who actually won and won fair and square, was Eisenhower.

The Reagan and Nixon machinations seem quite like treason to me.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,789 posts)
24. I completely agree.
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 11:17 PM
Jul 2014

I have maintained for years that Jimmy Carter is as good a MAN as has ever been President. If he had had the political acumen of Clinton, he might still be President. *L*

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
50. I had forgotten John Anderson until you reminded me.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 12:08 PM
Jul 2014

He was fairly popular at his peak, not really a true Republican. I believe he would think today's Republicans have completely lost their minds.

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
46. If He Listened
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 08:49 AM
Jul 2014

To Tip O'Neill he would have been re-elected.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/biography/carter-oneill/

"The political faultline between northern and southern Democrats was revealed time and again as the White House and Congress tried to come together over the federal budget. Carter, a fiscal conservative at heart, was determined to lead the fight against inflation by cutting government spending. "And across the table is Tip O'Neill," according to John Farrell, "the quintessential New Deal Democrat -- unrepentant, un-reconstructed, and determined to follow the [Franklin D.] Roosevelt philosophy of tax and tax, spend and spend, elect and elect... and basically standing for much of what Jimmy Carter had come to Washington to change."

americannightmare

(322 posts)
70. No, most Americans, including most Democrats...
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:27 PM
Jul 2014

wanted to continue their profligate consumption, no matter the cost, and even if they agreed with Carter regarding the philosophical/spiritual aspect of the problem. Sure, one may have voted for Carter, but one wasn't likely to change one's ways, as it were. Virtually no one wanted to hear about conservation and finding meaning and purpose in one's life beyond consumption, even if one agreed on a fundamental level. It could be argued that this is the ultimate paradox of modern human existence.

stage left

(3,016 posts)
48. I love Jimmy Carter!
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:53 AM
Jul 2014

He walks the talk. He should have been re-elected. He should have been listened to regarding energy conservation and the environment. Instead we were inflicted with Reagan.

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
53. Yes the Pious
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 01:45 PM
Jul 2014

Southern Baptist that we all know and love.
Staunch fiscal conservative and balance budget lover that is the Hallmark of the Democratic party.

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
69. A lot of those Principles are bashed here on DU regularly
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:44 AM
Jul 2014

A major deregulation proponent he started with the airlines and trucking industry. Subsequently destroying those Unions.
He was a Fiscal Conservative intent on balancing the budget even at the cost of social programs.
As President told unmarried staff not to "live in Sin".

In the summer of 1979, inflation rose to 14 percent. In response, Carter cut the budgets of social programs, leading to criticism from African American leaders and members of the "traditional FDR coalition

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/bonus-video/presidents-economy-carter2/?flavour=mobile

"An earlier version of this story said that Obama was the first Democratic president to propose cuts to Social Security. A proposal from President Jimmy Carter in 1977 proposed indexing changes that effectively cut benefits for future retirees.

Right. Carter not only changed the index, he proposed doing so in a way that reduced benefits more than chained-CPI would. Carter also scaled back eligibility rules for Social Security’s disability insurance."

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/social-securitys-peculiar-partisan-prob

"The broad outlines of Mr. Reagan's budget policy accelerated a trend begun in the final 18 months of the Carter Administration. After two decades of expanded social programs, President Carter faced mounting inflation and deepening deficits that forced him to abandon the unfinished business of the Democratic agenda: programs that would guarantee income, provide national health insurance and mammoth aid to education." NY Times 1988

I am not quite sure how Bush was worked into this unless you are accusing me as a supporter of his. Automatic assumption that a low post count equals Busher?

This is more of my type of Democrat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip_O'Neill
http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/1209.html

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
71. My reference to Bush has nothing to do with you. I was simply saying that I rate
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 01:40 PM
Jul 2014

Democrats that bowed down to the wishes of George Bush, lower on the goodness scale than Carter.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
51. I'd argue that subjugating women is the very basic PURPOSE of the Big Three monotheisms.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 12:20 PM
Jul 2014

Religion and misogyny -- what a pair.

Response to japple (Original post)

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
66. What Jimmy Carter
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 05:54 PM
Jul 2014

wasn't able to finish in office, he has more than made up as a private citizen. Habitat for Humanity and his work in ending disease and poverty is legendary. Oh yes, and there's his peace efforts in the Middle East. We were lucky to have him and Roslyn, both. Classy, smart people.

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