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Related: About this forumShuffling feet: a black man's view on Schroedinger's (sic) Rapist
This morning I made a reference to the fact that men are often assumed to be potential rapists as an example of how sexism negatively affects men as well as women. The argument, commonly referred to as Schroedingers Rapist, goes something like this: because you cant know for sure if the stranger approaching you in a dark alley or other unsafe place is a rapist or not, it is generally a good idea to be on your guard. Men can enhance their interactions with women by being aware of this mindset, and adjusting their own behaviour accordingly.
I have often heard from people making an anti-feminist argument that Schroedingers Rapist is profoundly sexist and unfair. After all, most men do not rape why should every man be treated like a rapist? Isnt that discrimination? How can you claim to be opposed to sexism, yet promote a fundamentally sexually prejudicial idea? The next step is often to draw parallels to racism is it fair to treat all black people as potential criminals simply because, statistically speaking, there are more black criminals than white ones? Isnt that racist?
As much as I hate it when white people use anti-black racism as a cudgel with which to beat other people, I can understand the conundrum as it is expressed. The problem with it (and the reason why its so bothersome to hear white people talk about anti-black racism) is that it fails to address the question in a meaningful way. To demonstrate what I mean, Id like to share a couple of personal anecdotes from my own life. Ive never shared these stories with anyone before, and Im not sure why because theres nothing particularly embarrassing about them, and theyre extremely useful in this context.
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TL/DR: Ive frequently heard people object to the Schroedingers Rapist argument as sexist, with anti-black racism used as a counter-example. I reject this comparison because it neglects two important factors: 1) that the issue under discussion is about whether or not we want women to feel more comfortable; and 2) that black people often make similar behavioural adjustments to accommodate the racism of their white friends. I share some personal stories to illustrate this.
Edited to add a link to explain Schrödingers Rapist:
Guest Blogger Starling: Schrödingers Rapist: or a guys guide to approaching strange women without being maced
http://kateharding.net/2009/10/08/guest-blogger-starling-schrodinger%E2%80%99s-rapist-or-a-guy%E2%80%99s-guide-to-approaching-strange-women-without-being-maced/
Lunacee2012
(172 posts)that I'd rather be called "profoundly sexist and unfair" than get raped.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)real
we had 2 pit bulls across the street. he also told me it was silly to be fearful of those dogs.
he has been a bouncer, lived and participated in the worst of life, so is quite experienced in that type of situation.
ya, right.
he also thinks white males are being oppressed.
he is also a fox news, rw wing extremist.
laconicsax
(14,860 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)laconicsax
(14,860 posts)If I "have" to explain why calling a woman an "evil cunt" is unacceptable one more time...
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)iris27
(1,951 posts)It is not sexist for women to view all men as potential rapists, because (other than in prison) men possess the privilege of being subject to a vanishingly small likelihood of being raped by either men or women, while women are subject to a substantial likelihood of being raped by men. In contrast, it is racist for white people to view all black people as potential criminals, because (as far as I can discern from available crime statistics) white people are the ones who possess the privilege of being less likely to be crime victims than black people, and they are more likely to be victims of crimes committed by white people than by black people.