Feminists

retrowire

(10,345 posts) Tue Feb 16, 2016, 12:12 PM Feb 2016

Are MRA's a new thing?

So, I've been thinking about it.

Feminism today is probably... the third wave? The first being... (please forgive my elementary assumptions) the Suffragettes and Flappers, then the "bra burners" (I know that no bras were actually burned) and then today right?

Of those past instances... Was there a counter uprising of males that felt persecuted because of women asking for equal representation?

I can't recall, maybe it's because I wasn't around during that time. But nowadays I've seen GamerGate, MRA's and Return of Kings all at once and I'm wondering, how have they been dealt with before?

Or did they ever exist before? Because I don't know that I've ever heard of a counter movement to feminism before. I mean, the establishment before was primarily male dominated so maybe it was there. But were there legitimate, counter grassroots movements before?

If so, how were they dealt with? If not, how do we deal with the MRA's of today?

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Are MRA's a new thing? (Original Post) retrowire Feb 2016 OP

An interesting question. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #1

That meeting of MRA's was the Return of Kings group I mentioned... retrowire Feb 2016 #2

I cannot answer your question. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #3

Hmmm... retrowire Feb 2016 #4

Assuming of course that such types can feel shame. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #5

I thought we were on 4th wave? EllieBC Feb 2016 #6

They are are a diverse group, some types new, other types old. SaveTheMackerel Feb 2016 #7

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)

1. An interesting question.

Reply to retrowire (Original post)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 12:20 PM

Feb 2016

Here is a good article.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/01/warren-farrell-mens-rights-movement-feminism-misogyny-trolls

My daughter told me of a proposed meeting of mens" rights activists planned for our area. The speaker is a known rape apologist. After word was spread, the meeting was cancelled due to local criticism. A link below.

http://united-states.world-news.online/2016/02/03/roosh-v-asks-followers-to-post-journalists-details/

retrowire

(10,345 posts)

2. That meeting of MRA's was the Return of Kings group I mentioned...

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 12:29 PM

Feb 2016

On their website they said they weren't cancelling but rather moving the meetups to undisclosed locations...

So yeah. How they hell are we supposed to deal with groups of men that feel they're truly entitled to a woman's body?

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)

3. I cannot answer your question.

Reply to retrowire (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 12:42 PM

Feb 2016

I would say dialogue, but sometimes only public shaming and protest seem to work. Does that change minds?

Similar to the KKK and other racist groups. They come out when they feel their brand of hate is accepted.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)

4. Hmmm...

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 12:43 PM

Feb 2016

Well, ROK is certainly publicly shamed.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)

5. Assuming of course that such types can feel shame.

Reply to retrowire (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 12:46 PM

Feb 2016

The leader seems quite certain of his worldview.

EllieBC

(3,318 posts)

6. I thought we were on 4th wave?

Reply to retrowire (Original post)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:12 PM

Feb 2016

Regardless, MRAs have always existed but like everything else, the Internet has helped them because they have a platform that's open 24/7.

SaveTheMackerel

(37 posts)

7. They are are a diverse group, some types new, other types old.

Reply to retrowire (Original post)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 10:41 PM

Feb 2016

MRA's who think rape is not a valid reason for abortion are not new. Those ones are not even fighting for men's rights, so I don't know why they are in the group.

Other MRA's are pro-choice but fight for rights because they are being forced to pay child support for a child that is not theirs. There are judges in 50 states who ignore DNA tests.

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