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CousinIT

(10,459 posts)
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 10:42 AM Oct 2023

A women's tech conference was systematically taken over by men looking for jobs : NPR

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/05/1203845886/women-tech-conference-men-grace-hopper

An event meant to be a career-builder for women and nonbinary tech workers turned into yet another symbol of the industry's gender imbalance after self-identifying men showed up in droves.

The Grace Hopper Celebration takes the name of a pioneering computer scientist and bills itself the world's largest annual gathering of women and nonbinary tech workers.

. . .

With some 30,000 annual attendees, that career expo was already a competitive space, according to past participants. But this year, access was even more limited by what the organizers described as "an increase in participation of self-identifying males."

Videos posted to social media showed scenes of men flocking around recruiters, running into event venues and cutting in front of women to get an interview slot. Footage showed a sea of people, hundreds deep, waiting in line for a chance to enter the career expo.

. . .

Some of the attendees had lied about their gender identity on their conference registrations, said Cullen White, the chief impact officer with AnitaB.org, the nonprofit that organizes the conference.

"Judging by the stacks and stacks of resumes you're passing out, you did so because you thought you could come here and take up space to try and get jobs," White said during the conference's plenary address. "So let me be perfectly clear: Stop. Right now. Stop. . . .

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mopinko

(71,937 posts)
1. no wonder they're all so worried about men pretending to b women.
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 10:51 AM
Oct 2023

they’ll do it in a heartbeat.
i hope they get blackballed.

IbogaProject

(3,750 posts)
13. Shh
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 03:34 PM
Oct 2023

They are lowering their chances at many firms. I'd bet we will be better off from this.

MenloParque

(534 posts)
2. It's tough out here even in the Valley!! I'm a female director of a Fortune 100 firm in the valley and the outlook
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 10:54 AM
Oct 2023

Pretty grim with all the layoffs. I’m sure if I was a male fresh out of school with a Masters in Comp Sci I would be doing to same as these young guys. It’s fucking hard in tech for everyone now!

WhiteTara

(30,201 posts)
3. Personally, if I were hiring
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 11:10 AM
Oct 2023

I wouldn't chose the person who cheats and lies to get ahead. That is the male way. It's sickening as far as I'm concerned. The rest of us work our asses off, have to be twice as good as you and then you lie and cheat your way in. Find a new career field.

MenloParque

(534 posts)
6. I personally had 8 recruiters at this event hiring for our North Carolina campus.
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 11:44 AM
Oct 2023

Once the recruiters do their job and forward us the best candidates from each event it all goes into a big database to use for when new positions open up. To be honest we aren’t even hiring candidates until may March April next year. We wouldn’t know if a resume came from this event or from a usual Duke University event. We could give a flying fuck where the most desirable candidates resumes come from.

CousinIT

(10,459 posts)
11. From the accounts of the event, many non-male candidates couldn't even get in front of recruiters
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 12:53 PM
Oct 2023

The men clogged up the lines and rushed the events.

So the 'best candidates' were culled primarily from the men - while the rest (women and non-binary applicants) didn't get a chance - even at an event designed for them to get in front of recruiters.

Your argument shows very poor logic. Maybe you don't care where the resumes come from - that's not the point. Those the event was designed to afford opportunity to apply were blocked out because males lied on their registrations and systematically rushed events and clogged lines to recruiters. You don't get the resumes until AFTER all that.

Talk about missing the point.

MenloParque

(534 posts)
12. If you are highly qualified candidate one would have the same chance at getting a chance at an interview
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 01:31 PM
Oct 2023

Either submitting resume through direct to our website or attending one of these many many many events we attend. No one at our company has gotten an upper hand at a chance to interview by simply attending any of many recruiting events we hold per year. These events are nothing more than resume getters. As a female in the Valley I hate how the system works as well. I was told that the hiring for next year at our NC campus will be predominantly new DUKE grads anyways. The corporate world is fucked up.

WhiteTara

(30,201 posts)
8. they went to an event
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 11:59 AM
Oct 2023

specifically for women and non binary and in order to attend the event, the cis men stated they were not. That's lying and cheating.

ShazzieB

(18,910 posts)
9. Sure sounds like cheating and lying to me.
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 12:02 PM
Oct 2023

Men crashing (yes, I said "crashing," because they were clearly not invited) an event that is specifically not for them, some even misrepresenting their gender identity on their registrations? If that's not lying and cheating, I don't know what is.

I'm sorry to hear about all these layoffs in the tech industry. I know what it's like to get laid off, believe me. I got caught up in the big economic crash of 2008, when people in almost every industry were getting laid off right and left. Being involuntarily unemployed sucks. But that does not even almost excuse what these men did. The sense of entitlement they displayed was off the charts, and their behavior is indefensible as far as I'm concerned.

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