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redqueen

(115,164 posts)
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 02:34 PM Jan 2012

On being an object, and then not being an object

Trigger warning

http://www.finslippy.com/blog/on-being-an-object-and-then-not-being-an-object.html

I keep trying to write this post, and every time I'm taken aback at how angry I am, how very furious, and I don't want that, I want to be positive and have fun and entertain. But oh, there's something I want to say, so I try again, and I'm back to being furious. Well. I've literally been at this post for a year and it never gets any funnier or lighter, but I keep wanting to write it; I have to write it; I have to be done with it. So here we go.

A year ago I was at a family event and a few of my mom's friends--older women all--were expressing amazement that I would let my hair go gray. One of them--a woman I've known since I was born--said, "Men don't mind it when their hair goes gray, because gray hair makes you look more intimidating. And a woman doesn't want to look intimidating."

She was so well-meaning, so concerned about my looking approachable and pretty, and I know she didn't mean anything by it. But when she said this, so much rage welled up in me. So much. I made a joke and changed the subject, but all I wanted to do was scream. Loudly.

Because: do I want to look intimidating? God, yes. I do. Yes, please, I very much fucking do.

...


By the time I finished reading this, I wanted to cheer out loud.
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On being an object, and then not being an object (Original Post) redqueen Jan 2012 OP
bravo knowbody0 Jan 2012 #1
This gave me a renewed appreciation for being shy around strangers arcane1 Jan 2012 #2
Beautifully written. PassingFair Jan 2012 #3
Geez, Patrick_Bateman Jan 2012 #4
Turning 50 was huge for me in a very good way. MuseRider Jan 2012 #5
I really enjoyed this. CrispyQ Jan 2012 #6
this snip says it very well BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #13
i have not been able ot express how i feel about the gaze, but yes, this says it. seabeyond Feb 2012 #14
lol! Looking them in the eye.... BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #15
forcibly returning the gaze, making forceful eye contact, is key. seabeyond Feb 2012 #16
Last week, Patrick_Bateman Jan 2012 #7
welcome to du. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #8
Grazie Grazie! Patrick_Bateman Jan 2012 #9
Hair is not intimidating, attitude is. One_Life_To_Give Feb 2012 #10
haha Happy2323 Feb 2012 #11
Welcome to du, to you too. Lol seabeyond Feb 2012 #12
This Ii totally agree with: raccoon Feb 2012 #17
what a fantastic read Whisp Feb 2012 #18
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
2. This gave me a renewed appreciation for being shy around strangers
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 02:45 PM
Jan 2012

I've seen people do the "smile" thing many times, and it's annoyed the hell out of me even without knowing any of the parties involved.

Excellent post!

 

Patrick_Bateman

(47 posts)
4. Geez,
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 02:50 PM
Jan 2012

What are we as a society when a woman has to fret about allowing her hair to go gray or not.

Who the fark cares about what we think! Wear the hair any damn way you want!

Our daughter has 'natural' dreads. She received the nastiest looks from white folks and quizzical looks from African Americans. It was quite funny.

MuseRider

(34,369 posts)
5. Turning 50 was huge for me in a very good way.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 03:30 PM
Jan 2012

Something happened inside of me. All of a sudden I did not care one tiny bit what anyone thought. I was not changed in my ways with people except I did no longer put up with any of that kind of crap. I can tell you that my life is better for it. Now, if my hair would only turn gray...very slowly. I am interested to see if there are any more changes in a couple of years when I hit 60.

Thanks for this article. Thanks for all of them.

CrispyQ

(38,266 posts)
6. I really enjoyed this.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 03:36 PM
Jan 2012

snip...

To be a young woman in our culture means that you exist, from an alarmingly young age, for the appreciation of others. Therefore, your every feature is fair game for public appraisal.

It means you become accustomed to a certain kind of gaze: a cold survey of your merits and deficits.

It means you tense up when you walk past a group, any group, of men, because you know they're going to say something, it may or may not be positive, and either way it's not going to leave you feeling good about yourself.

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Thanks for posting

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
13. this snip says it very well
Fri Feb 3, 2012, 08:40 AM
Feb 2012

It reminds me of that feeling, of being under observation--am I sexy enough?

It was a critical question for me for many many many years. I know that feeling, that need to pass muster.

It's odd now, to have passed into invisibility. Men have no parallel for this experience, what it feels like. I imagine they face it later, perhaps to a lesser degree, much later. I don't know what it's like for them.


I think the silver accentuates the age---the age that signifies you have passed the "shelf date" and are no longer of interest.

That's the tyranny of, and the freeing from being ruled by biology.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
14. i have not been able ot express how i feel about the gaze, but yes, this says it.
Fri Feb 3, 2012, 08:43 AM
Feb 2012

it is why the last decade or more, i have wanted to look the man in the eyes and say.... who the fuck are you.... lol

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
15. lol! Looking them in the eye....
Fri Feb 3, 2012, 08:51 AM
Feb 2012

yes I used to do that too.

I kind of straddled a fence; sometimes I'd be on the "I need the approval!!" side, and sometimes I'd be on the "Fuck You, dude!" side. Definitely, forcibly returning the gaze, making forceful eye contact, is key.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
16. forcibly returning the gaze, making forceful eye contact, is key.
Fri Feb 3, 2012, 09:31 AM
Feb 2012

it really really is. instead of putting head down, looking away.... looking them in the eyes, they literally shrivel. this is how i know they are not just "admiring". they know. i know. and it is all about disrespect. who the fuck has the right to be disrespectful to a stranger without repercussions..... their eyes drop.

 

Patrick_Bateman

(47 posts)
7. Last week,
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 03:37 PM
Jan 2012

my wife shaved most of her hair off. She has been threatening to do it for years. She claims our daughter "sucked the waves out of her hair" when she was pregnant.


Anyway, she looks great! a beautiful head. Sinead O'Connor-esque.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
10. Hair is not intimidating, attitude is.
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 06:00 PM
Feb 2012

People who choose not to be lemmings and do exactly the same as everyone else can be intimidating. But if you look close gray or colored, make-up or not. Intimidating women would be intimidating either way. Do it because it's what you want and not because some Madison Ave type tells you to.

Happy2323

(7 posts)
11. haha
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 04:55 PM
Feb 2012

Sorry I shouldn't laugh but it was funny.

But you are right why do men get to be intimidating? I think anyone with grey hair looks down to earth, natural, and wise no matter the sex. But on the same token I wouldn't judge someone just on their hair colour male or female.

raccoon

(31,457 posts)
17. This Ii totally agree with:
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 01:12 PM
Feb 2012

"Being middle aged renders you invisible to the kinds of creeps who dole out harassment, so you're mostly left alone. I'm really enjoying it. Not only do I not miss my youth, I am pleased to be rid of it. "



 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
18. what a fantastic read
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 03:46 PM
Feb 2012

I swear to god that could be me writing that - but not as well as the author.

same shit!

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