Feminists
Related: About this forumLGBT vs. Feminists (new rule proposed - and why I think this is a non issue that should die now)
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I think we all hashed out the nature of iverglas's being blocked and why she was unblocked.
That discussion went off the rails and was once more being used to fight the IMAGINARY battle of which identity is more important, LGBT or Feminist.
I would like to propose a new rule.
Nobody gets to bring up which thing should be paramount. IF and ONLY if an issue arises in which that distinction is somehow meaningful, will that particular discussion be acceptable.
Please let me know your thoughts about this proposed rule.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)respectfully or you kick us out of the thread
redqueen
(115,164 posts)Rehashing old battles (and worse, misconceptions of what those old battles were even about) is not helping anything IMO.
boston bean
(36,486 posts)I've been a feminist my entire adult female life. This entire fiasco of putting up these walls between women, is not feminism.
I hope this rule lasts and I will follow it.
redqueen
(115,164 posts)I hope that if we all agree on this rule that we will have a much better experience here as a result.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)And as an aside to seabeyond, I was composing a reply to you when redqueen locked the other thread. No need to rehash, just wanted to tell you that I agree that all parties need to be held to the same standard of civil discourse.
with you woman...
the better of who we are.
redqueen
(115,164 posts)I saw those same battles being refought and didn't see any point in allowing it to continue.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)I'm all for locking threads that become distractions from the real purpose of the group.
I just took a little bit too long to compose my reply to seabeyond.
iverglas
(38,549 posts)It wasn't us who tried to make an issue out of this, and we were the ones who could not get answers to what the issue might be in any event.
It is not an issue. Suits me.
redqueen
(115,164 posts)I'm not taking any sides here. I don't think anyone should be required to swear an allegiance to be loyal to feminist causes first or anything else first.
Whatever people's priorities are, as long as they're not disrupting this group I don't care what importance they place on energy issues or environmental issues or national security issues or whatever.
iverglas
(38,549 posts)The subject line contains the words "many of us". The "us" in that case will be posters in this group's forum.
The "us" in the body of the post obviously refers to the "many of us" in the subject line.
Please don't criticise my grammar, or whatever it is you were doing there.
Many of us said X.
We who said X ...
I trust that is clearer now.
redqueen
(115,164 posts)That being the case, it is rather disingenuous of you now to claim that you are part of any group that didn't try to make an issue of it.
I'm glad you no longer consider it an issue. Thanks for your feedback.
iverglas
(38,549 posts)I never considered it an issue.
I and a number of other group members were told it was an issue by several people who very flatly refused to tell us the nature of their issue, despite repeated requests by a number of people.
I did not "try to make an issue" of anything, and you may want to reread the threads in issue if you want to assert that, for some kind of substantiation.
Certain people posted here and told us their position. They declined to explain what the issue was that led to their stating that position.
If they "no longer consider it an issue", whatever it was, that's lovely and I'm all for moving ahead on that basis.
edit typo in subject line
redqueen
(115,164 posts)In any case, I'll be glad to see the discussion end unless and until it comes up organically as a result of an actual incident in which such ranking of loyalty is somehow germane to the issue at hand.
iverglas
(38,549 posts)The empressof all
(29,100 posts)The few members who have personal conflicts need to make an effort to back away and exercise their right to use the ignore button.
I am all in favor of the hosts in this group shutting down threads where this conflict is resurrected.
Let this be an end...Let there be peace
Response to The empressof all (Reply #7)
seabeyond This message was self-deleted by its author.
redqueen
(115,164 posts)Thanks for the feedback, glad you like the idea too.
Texasgal
(17,154 posts)whole issue to be honest.
You won't have to worry about me, I am clueless as to why this is even an issue.
redqueen
(115,164 posts)lucky you! Glad to have you here, and that the squabbling didn't scare you off.
PassingFair
(22,437 posts)Damn!
I'm glad THAT'S over!
Thanks for hangin in there, hostesses!!!
redqueen
(115,164 posts)as your agreement with the proposed rule. Unless you say otherwise of course.
PassingFair
(22,437 posts)....I said it!
Just to be ornery.
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)redqueen
(115,164 posts)and please do nominate someone to serve! I hope the next discussion about hosts and co-hosts goes smoothly.
BlueIris
(29,135 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,710 posts)There is only one group that ever gets satisfaction when leftists of any stripe fight, and that is the right wing that is ready to pick at our corpses. Let's not forget that while we may have sibling quarrels, we are all of the same family in the end.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Remember Me
(1,532 posts)redqueen
(115,164 posts)ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)We all have the same goals here.
redqueen
(115,164 posts)I don't know if we all have the exact same goals, but the overarching desire of everyone here is to see a more just and egalitarian society in which women are treated as human beings and not 'othered' as they are now.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Lisa D
(1,532 posts)I don't post much, but I really do appreciate how much you do for this group.
redqueen
(115,164 posts)StellaMarr
(3 posts)Please.
TO quote the great Cherry Smiley, a prostitution survivor and activist:
Your hestiation means that we die. This is an emergency
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)the last couple of weeks have been difficult here due to some trolls and socks and bigoted language against transgendered people. Hopefully, that is all sorted out for now and we can move on.