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TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 05:37 PM Mar 2012

Obama recasts birth control debate on own terms

By JULIE PACE, Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama is casting the contraception controversy as an issue of women's rights, not religious freedom, seizing on what backers see as a political gift from Rush Limbaugh to firm up support from women and young voters, groups essential to his re-election hopes.

He dove deep into the culture wars of American politics by rushing to defend a female law student verbally attacked by the conservative commentator, making a telephone call of support to Georgetown University's Sandra Fluke. It was nothing short of an election-year appeal to a crucial voting bloc.

It also had the political benefit of forcing Republicans to choose between siding with the president and taking what critics view as an extreme position to counter him. Limbaugh, who has an enormous following on the political right, called Fluke a "slut" because the 30-year-old student has been a vocal supporter of access to contraception.

The president's involvement in the debate over contraception, and whether insurers should be required to cover it, helped reignite a political battle from the 1960s and 1970s, and the birth of the religious right. By the 1980s, Christian conservatives were being elected to school boards and city councils. That success formed a foundation for what by the 1990s and 2000s were being called America's "values voters."

Now, as then, the country is trying to determine the government's role in morality.

More: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gld5CEfL4etDaZdPcuZksr1qD-KQ?docId=429ccce3a1344515a4532f17ef02cfe7

TYY

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Obama recasts birth control debate on own terms (Original Post) TeeYiYi Mar 2012 OP
Deja vu.. TeeYiYi Mar 2012 #1
Does anyone know... TeeYiYi Mar 2012 #2
I have a stupid question Catherina Mar 2012 #5
I don't know either.. TeeYiYi Mar 2012 #7
I'm so sorry for your torture sister Catherina Mar 2012 #8
Condoms are Not Included in New Rule Changes as they are Available Without a Prescription indykatie1955 Mar 2012 #10
Thank you indykatie... TeeYiYi Mar 2012 #12
Should be. Neoma Mar 2012 #11
This is the first time I've read Limbaugh's vicious words, I'm speechless Catherina Mar 2012 #3
It really is shocking.. TeeYiYi Mar 2012 #4
More from the article... TeeYiYi Mar 2012 #6
This is an informative essay longship Mar 2012 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #13

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
1. Deja vu..
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 05:46 PM
Mar 2012

It's hard to believe women are being attacked again like this. It actually feels worse and scarier now than it did during the 70s.

But I also think this attack on women is having a surprisingly positive effect. Probably because of social media and the internet, women seem more resolved to band together and fight back.

TYY

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
2. Does anyone know...
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 05:50 PM
Mar 2012

...if condoms are included in the birth control umbrella of prescriptions covered by health insurance?

TYY

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
5. I have a stupid question
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 06:09 PM
Mar 2012

Since condoms are over the counter with no prescription required, doesn't that automatically mean they're not under the birth control umbrella of prescriptions covered by health insurance?

I have no idea how that works.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
7. I don't know either..
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 06:14 PM
Mar 2012

...but I had a Glenn Beck fan spewing republican screed in my direction this morning. It was all about ”rubbers”...

TYY

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
8. I'm so sorry for your torture sister
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 06:32 PM
Mar 2012

I don't understand how anyone can listen to Beck, much less buy it.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
12. Thank you indykatie...
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 10:36 PM
Mar 2012

...That was the stance I took this morning but I wanted to confirm my argument for the next volley!

Thanks again.

TYY

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
3. This is the first time I've read Limbaugh's vicious words, I'm speechless
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 05:52 PM
Mar 2012
"What does it say about the college coed ... who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says that she must be paid to have sex? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute. She wants to be paid to have sex."

Limbaugh about this on Wednesday


These nasty people need to get their politics out of my vagina! And the White House needs to trash their phony compromise that allows church-affiliated employers to opt out of contraception.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
4. It really is shocking..
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 06:00 PM
Mar 2012

...what's going on. ...with mandatory trans vaginal probes, discussion of female sexuality relating to birth control...and all scary republican men and their mindless minions fomenting the charge...

Scary.

TYY

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
6. More from the article...
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 06:11 PM
Mar 2012

”Democratic lawmakers are also seeking to capitalize on the Limbaugh's comments. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said in a letter to supporters that Democrats had raised more than $1.6 million on the contraception issue.

A spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said it was inappropriate to try to raise money off the issue. But the Speaker's office also distanced itself from Limbaugh's comments, saying they, too, were inappropriate.”

John Boehner is an idiot.

TYY

longship

(40,416 posts)
9. This is an informative essay
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 07:04 PM
Mar 2012

Here's another snip --- from a Repug, no less:

Republican strategist John Feehery said the GOP candidates have so far missed an opportunity to forcefully distance themselves from Limbaugh's comments, allowing the president to take advantage.

"He's looking like the hero here," Feehery said of Obama. "If the Republicans were smart, they would have done the same thing: given her a call and said we're sorry about this attack."


Looks like Mr. Feehery is a good candidate for Repugs for Obama.

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