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Related: About this forumFemale Serial Killers by Peter Vronsky
You know... I picked out this book awhile back, by my reaction of, "You must be joking..." Well, he's not joking. On page 3:
(snip)
More disturbing is that three-quarters of female serial killers in the U.S made their appearance since 1950, and a full half only since 1975!
Buh...buh...but, women are always nurturing!
Haha...
ZenLefty
(20,924 posts)Kidding! Kidding!
Okay, seriously. I'm curious if the book sheds any light as to whether their reasons differ much from male serial killers. I'd assume that serial killers' reasons are kind of all over the place. Some do it for the thrill, others to right a perceived moral wrong, others for revenge, etc. But I really don't know much about serial killers as a whole, of either gender.
I think there's a potential for darkness in all of us, male or female. Maybe more men act on that darkness because of capability, or because men tend to be more aggressive. I don't know, but I think it's kind of interesting.
Neoma
(10,039 posts)Never can tell.
ismnotwasm
(42,433 posts)Revenge, profit, 'mercy killing nurses' and not so many psycho-sexual peversion murders? I know there are some, especially when the it's a couple killer.
I've been fascinated by serial killers for years, but not so much the last few years. Makes me wonder how many women killers went under the radar, because you know we don't do that kind of thing.
A friend of mine was killed by one, he was that guy in Alaska who hunted women like animals. The movie 'Naked Fear'-- which I haven't bothered to watch--is loosely based on his murders. She was a sex worker trying to get away from an abusive husband. Thirty years ago now. You never forget though.
obamanut2012
(27,744 posts)And, what the author is citing as being a serial killer, since the info in the OP flies against what Ive read from FBI profilers, like Ressler and Douglas.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)And you're right, "black widow" or "mercy killer" types are far more common than sexual sadists.
obamanut2012
(27,744 posts)who popped into my head immediately.
Both "sidekicks" of men, although Homolka is as loathsome as her husband (even tortured and killed her own sister), and it is a crime she was released. Of course, neither of those are American!
FloridaJudy
(9,465 posts)Men and women express psychopathology differently. Men are more likely than women to kill random strangers, women tend to keep their murderous impulses closer to home. Andrea Yates didn't go round the twist and start shooting strangers at a school or a mall: she drowned her own children.
Of course, there are numerous cases of men killing their children, and a woman is far more likely to be killed by her husband than a man is by his wife. But on the whole, if a woman kills anyone, it's almost always a family member.
And there have been recent cases of women strapping dynamite to themselves and detonating it in a crowded market, but your average suicide bomber is still usually a male.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)(money, a boyfriend) and men more likely to be lust killers. It's not a hard-and-fast rule, but a strong tendency.
ricky-fle
(1 post)I am collecting the information on famous female serial killers and found your thread as much interesting. I am also having the few female killers in my list and looking to add some more. Thanks
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)by "Jack42"
Did you find the book to have this tone, Neoma?
obamanut2012
(27,744 posts)Which may also explain the 16% cited, as that stat does contradict John Douglas, Robert Ressler, etc.
Neoma
(10,039 posts)There's bound to be an angry voice in the reviews over that.
FloridaJudy
(9,465 posts)Recent research on psychopathy suggests that it's promoted by a defect on the X-chromosome. X-linked genetic problems are more likely to show up in males, since most females have another perfectly good X to cancel out the bad one.
Biology is rarely destiny, though, except in cases of such overwhelming genetic defects that a normal life is near impossible. Most men who have the gene will never become serial killers - the scientist who did the study is one such. It takes the combination of a bad gene and a violent upbringing to bring it out. Also, some women can be so damaged by trauma that they become killers: Aileen Wuornos comes most readily to mind.
I'm a TED addict, and I found this talk fascinating:
http://www.ted.com/talks/jim_fallon_exploring_the_mind_of_a_killer.html
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)I feel rather strongly about it or I would not say it. When it comes to Aileen Wournos, I believe that if what she said was true of her first murder (that she was raped), she wasn't really guilty of murder, per se, on that one. I can't say much about the rest of her murders, but if she was raped on that first one, it should have been considered self defense. It was never brought up at her trial, but the first guy she killed already had a criminal record for rape. So, it is quite possible she was telling the truth about that. I always kind of felt for her on that first one.
Otherwise, I have always been fascinated by what causes serial killers to do what they do. How is it that some people have all of the classic "warning signs," yet, they are not serial killers? I guess that goes back to the nature vs. nurture debate. I have always wondered how many female serial killers there are too.