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Once upon a time. (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jun 2012 OP
I have mixed feelings about this.. LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #1
To a certain extent I agree with LiberalLoner kdmorris Jun 2012 #2

LiberalLoner

(10,080 posts)
1. I have mixed feelings about this..
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 08:19 AM
Jun 2012

thank you for posting it, it should generate some good conversation I think.

But the actual sentiment gives me mixed feelings.

There was a lot of this sort of thing in the early 70's when the feminist movement was gaining steam and trying to fight against the system.

It was kind of out there, shocking, trying to get people to understand that women didn't necessarily HAVE to get married and have children, which was the prevailing assumption at the time. It was understood at the time that women NEEDED men in order to survive. And this kind of stuff was bandied about then to get people to think, is it possible women can stand on their own as human beings without being owned by men?

But there is a mean spirit to it. A denigrating of the very wonderful things that most men do in their roles as husband and father. A complaining spirit is in this.

For my part, my husband is the best thing that ever happened to me and I thank God every day for him. (Sorry for being religious, just being honest.) I appreciate very much everything he does for me and in our relationship at least, I'm more than happy to cook for him and prepare sandwiches for him because he does so much for me and we have a loving, giving, reciprocal relationship.

I wish this kind of relationship for every man and women who wants a relationship like this, and for those who don't, I wish them happiness on their preferred path. Neither path is superior or should be seen as the only right path.

But there is a meanness here that bothers me, especially when I think of the rising meanness and snarkiness and despair in our world these days.

Sorry for going on and on, just sorting out my thoughts here I guess.

kdmorris

(5,649 posts)
2. To a certain extent I agree with LiberalLoner
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 09:11 AM
Jun 2012

I am happy that my daughters have the choice to marry or not and that they can do wonderful things without getting married.

But my husband is one of the most awesome people I've ever met (male or female). I could do all of the things here (except hooking up with someone) and still be married to him (even the toilet seat being down).

I like the sentiment that says "You don't have to be married to be cool", but there's an undertone of "If you want to be cool, never get married", which I don't think is the message I want to send, either. For me, it's about choice... choose to get married (or not), choose to have children (or not) and neither choice makes you a bad person or deserving of ridicule.

Just my two cents.

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