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Related: About this forumThe Official Guide to Legitimate Rape
Yesterday, Missouri Rep. Todd Akin, Republican Senate nominee and member of the House Science, Space and Technology committee, said pregnancy from rape was "really rare" because "if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down." Akin quickly said that he "misspoke," but he didn't rescind his claims that women have magical sperm-defying ovaries or that there's a hierarchy when it comes to different "levels" of rape.
If you're unfamiliar with the exciting concept that your uterus can pick and choose between various kinds of rape, don't fret. We have just the guide for you.
Non-Pregnancy Rape
For decades, conservatives have claimed that women can't get pregnant from "legitimate" rape thanks to their wise, all-knowing uteri, psychic "juices" and Spidey Sense-like "secretions." (Hmm, if legislators can applaud our vaginas for being so omniscient, how come they can't let us control them?)
In 1998, Republican Pennsylvania Rep. Stephen Freind said the odds that a woman who is raped will get knocked up are "one in millions and millions and millions" because rape causes a woman to "secrete a certain secretion" that kills evil sperm. I don't know about you guys, but my "secretions" are so judicious that they start flowing the second after an Ayn Rand-lover approaches me at a bar, before he can even utter the word "Objectivism." I guess my vag is just highly evolved.
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http://jezebel.com/5936160/the-official-guide-to-legitimate-rape
Much more craziness at the link.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)when people, particularly men, try to say that some kinds of rape aren't rape, or aren't real rape, or whatever. It upsets me to the point where I have to take a break. This is what has been bothering me with the Assange stuff. I think it's very possible he's being set up for political reasons, so I am skeptical of the charges against him, but it drives me crazy to hear the reasons people give for dismissing rape accusations. If it's true that she consented to sex, but then fell asleep and he penetrated her again while she was asleep, that just plain is rape. She might choose not to press charges, and maybe she's being pressured to for political reasons, I don't know, but that just plain is rape regardless. Our bodies belong to us. If we give permission for access once, that does not mean we relinquish control of our bodies from that point forward.
Aaaargh! I'm still very upset!
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)don't let it get you down. It's a unique and bizarre case, and I think people are having trouble reconciling the idea of Assange being persecuted with the idea that it means they're calling potential victims liars. It's easier on the brain to just say "it wasn't rape" and be done with it.
For what it's worth, I had trouble with the idea myself when the charges first made the press, because I couldn't fathom who would sleep naked with a guy they didn't know and weren't interested in having sex with. (as a matter of fact, I think I hollered "Are you kidding me? THIS is the best they could come up with??" at the computer) Later reports described the girl as young, inexperienced and somewhat of a naif. Then it made sense- of course, that's the kind of person who does that- one that isn't experienced enough to know better. Sometimes it helps to put things in a perspective that a person can grasp.
Starry Messenger
(32,375 posts)They literally have no idea how the female body works.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)You have to invite them, or they can't get in.
kdmorris
(5,649 posts)kdmorris
(5,649 posts)Or, how far they are willing to go to control us, one or the other.
If women don't get pregnant during rapes, then rape as a weapon of war is completely ineffective. I should send those idiots the studies of life in the Sudan, Somalia, the Balkans (among several thousand other historical events) after rape was used to subjugate the population and divide communities.
How do they think that all the Highlanders in Scotland came to look like the invading Vikings? Maybe the Celtic women were just "asking for it"?