than have to cope with a banned words list.

However, I would also love to see blatantly sexist posts that don't even use the mean and nasty sexual slurs be hidden more consistently than they are now.

As a feminist, I did not think it was sexist, I use it all the time. I believe that terminology laying out inappropriate language should be a general one addressing all forms of bigotry. If the current one does not do that, I think amending it would be fine.

It does not state that in the pinned thread. Sexism and misogyny is not mentioned in TOS. Should it be?

Your post was in reply to a post by Warpy who did not want a banned word list. I thought I would add a little lighthearted commentary about my experience on a jury about a word that maybe someone thought should have been on a banned word list.

On a more serious note, I must admit I have not read the TOS and I do not know how it describes dealing with inappropriate language. However, if there is such a clause, it should be inclusive so that no group feels left out, but, and this is where I agree with Warpy, not so restrictive that a banned word list is necessary. The instance that I mentioned where someone found a word offensive was not used in a derogatory way. It was not a slur that was directed at anyone, but a fairly common expression that had a double meaning.

But as you can see, there's confusion about what that actually means, even among feminists.

Someone wrote a post recently about how individuals think in gendered terms, which may make it more difficult for some people to recognize sexism and misogyny than racism and homophobia.

It's also true that some people see sexism and misogyny when it's NOT there.

So, while I absolutely agree that sexism and misogyny should be in the TOS, perhaps, it should be spelled out more clearly.

Part of this process could be to help with what that could look like for an amended TOS. I think there are probably a few that we could get some consensus on.

Admin also needs to spell out specific language on bullying/harassment.

The lack of specific language on any number of issues can be construed as endorsement. Sexism and bullying are both areas where refinement of the TOS would be helpful.

That there seems to be confusion on what constitutes "prohibition of bigotry based on gender" is distressing in itself. Do folks not know what bigotry is? Or us 'gender' the confusing word?

Care needs to be taken on wording. Some are easily offended, some too easily. Bullying should be the big no-no but I imagine there are a few who would disagree on its threshhold.

Apparently a revision needs to be made. I suggest a poll on the wording (2 or 3 revisions).

I would love to see them disappear from DU, and frequently “stifle myself” when I would rather deliver a scathing rebuke. Sadly, even in the DU community, the willingness to refrain from overt expressions of racism doesn’t extend to misogyny and sexism.

I believe the very idea of imposing restraints on language that demeans women and/or characteristics classified as “feminine” would be met with a fierce backlash. That doesn’t mean we should continue to grin and bear it, but maybe there’s a more creative approach.

Changing hearts and minds around this intractable problem will require nothing short of redefining “manhood” itself. Until the men of DU are willing to endure the discomfort of evolving beyond their patriarchal conditioning, the imposition of new rules could create a backlash of unintended consequences.

Finally, as much as I share the fervent desire to rid this community of its all too frequent outbursts of sexism and misogyny, the timing of this proposal may not be optimal. Now more than ever, we need to present a united front. Just sayin’.