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Starry Messenger

(32,375 posts)
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 09:12 PM Feb 2013

Sexism from “the left”: why it has to stop

Wonderfully articulated blog post.

http://stavvers.wordpress.com/2013/02/19/sexism-from-the-left-why-it-has-to-stop/



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Sexism on the left comes in forms as diverse as the beliefs of those who are lumped under the umbrella term of “the left”. The most overt form, perhaps, is outright sexist language (bitch, etc), and rape apologism (e.g. George Galloway, the SWP), but that’s the tip of a very sexist iceberg. Among the liberals, it often comes as a backlash against calling out sexism and pleas for unity. For some, sexism is a problem to be solved later, and we should, at present, fight the perceived “real enemy”. Then there’s the manarchists, swinging their dicks as they ignore their female comrades. There’s also those who can say all of the right words, and then their behaviour doesn’t match up at all, and they will defend their behaviour using theory that they learned and are apparently incapable of applying to themselves. Others still think that they’re doing more than enough already to combat sexism. Then there’s the ones who insist that intersectionality is somehow equivalent to identity politics, proving that they are ignorant about what at least one of these things is. This is hardly an exhaustive list. Left sexism manifests in so many ways.

It all has one thing in common: that self-assurance that they are completely right which comes with male privilege.

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This is exacerbated, at least in part, by a prevalent belief that everything is a matter for debate. This debate ought to be held cordially and civilly, ending with either agreement, or at least by politely agreeing to disagree. For the privileged, it is perfectly easy to view oppressions as a sort of intellectual game and little more than a topic to agree to disagree on. For those who experience these oppressions, it’s not that simple and it’s not a fucking game. And so we’re branded as over-emotional about things which we don’t have the luxury of turning off our emotions on. It’s a thing we face every day, and its very existence is being denied and defended by those who claim to be on our side.

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Men on the left, try to be better. Feminist struggle is not an add-on to class struggle, and sexism is not a small problem, because all of this is intimately connected. If your revolution is one-dimensional, I want no part in it. Be open to being wrong, and be open to being corrected. It will strengthen us, not weaken us. Be reflective and thoughtful, acknowledge and abolish your own blind spots.

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Sexism from “the left”: why it has to stop (Original Post) Starry Messenger Feb 2013 OP
I can see this, however DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #1
I have never seen anyone accuse someone of being sexist for objecting to a female politician Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #3
sorry to say, I have DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #5
"...backlash against calling out sexism and pleas for unity." Gormy Cuss Feb 2013 #2
I've seen it on other blogs and sites too. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #4
This. We can walk and chew gum at the same time - TBF Mar 2013 #12
+1 obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #6
This has been going on since at least the 1960s. sufrommich Feb 2013 #7
Sadly they need know what sexisn is... Jasana Feb 2013 #8
I have "issues" get the red out Feb 2013 #9
I have "issues" too. MadrasT Feb 2013 #10
I read the original libodem Mar 2013 #11

DonCoquixote

(13,710 posts)
1. I can see this, however
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 09:22 PM
Feb 2013

One thing that i tolerated in 2008, that i will NOT in 2016.

If I object to a female politician, do not accuse me of being sexist, especially when said woman is coming from the right.

Starry Messenger

(32,375 posts)
3. I have never seen anyone accuse someone of being sexist for objecting to a female politician
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 09:28 PM
Feb 2013

right-wing or left.

What I have seen people object to is using their gender as a basis for attack, which is uncalled for and bigoted.

I'm always happy to see Sally Kern called out as a homophobic swine. But there is no need for descriptions, for example: "hag, b1tch, dried out (fill in blank)." If one uses them, one might correctly be called out for sexist language.

DonCoquixote

(13,710 posts)
5. sorry to say, I have
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:14 PM
Feb 2013

I gave up a site called the smirking chimp, which at one point, was as big as DU. The line was everyone who was against Hillary was a sexist young swine. I have already said what i felt about Hillary in my journal, but you will not find sexism.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
2. "...backlash against calling out sexism and pleas for unity."
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 09:28 PM
Feb 2013

That's how it feels on DU some days. It's as if pointing out sexism is some violation of the left code or something.

Starry Messenger

(32,375 posts)
4. I've seen it on other blogs and sites too.
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 09:34 PM
Feb 2013

Sexism is considered a side issue that will "tear the group apart" or be "distracting" in the process of the project the group is engaged in.

TBF

(34,278 posts)
12. This. We can walk and chew gum at the same time -
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 08:09 PM
Mar 2013

and sexism (not to mention other forms of bigotry) are not going to suddenly disappear even if there is a revolution and the economics are much more equitable. It's much deeper than that and most who are not white males realize it.

Jasana

(490 posts)
8. Sadly they need know what sexisn is...
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 05:11 AM
Feb 2013

not too mention what feminism is. I guess we'll have to keep teaching them through GD. An award for through who keep teaching through GD. To those lades I say: "you've got a lot of ovaries."

get the red out

(13,579 posts)
9. I have "issues"
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:10 PM
Feb 2013

I just got this treatment, argue passionately about a women's rights issue and get told you have "anger issues". Hell yea, in a world that treats us like that, sure I do.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
10. I have "issues" too.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:06 PM
Feb 2013

Chief among them, that *more* people aren't angry.

As far as I am concerned, if you aren't angry, you're aren't paying attention.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
11. I read the original
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:38 PM
Mar 2013

And had to to look up 'cis' woman. Because she is the most cis woman on the planet. Who knew?

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