Feminists
Related: About this forumDerailing for Dummies, redux
I shared this a few years ago, it's been through some changes and updates, but it seems like it could do with a repost.
http://birdofparadox.wordpress.com/derailing-for-dummies-google-cache-reconstruction
"You know how it is.
Youre enjoying yourself, kicking back and relaxing at the pub or maybe at the library; or maybe youre in class or just casually surfing the internet, indulging in a little conversation. The topic of the conversation is about a pertinent contemporary issue, probably something to do with a group of people who fall outside your realm of experience and identity. Theyre also probably fairly heavily discriminated against or so they claim.
The thing is, youre having a good time, sharing your knowledge about these people and their issues. This knowledge is incontrovertible its been backed up in media representation, books, research and lots and lots of historical events, also your own unassailable sense of being right.
Yet all of a sudden something happens to put a dampener on your sharing of your enviable intellect and incomparable capacity to fully perceive and understand All Things. Its someone who belongs to the group of people youre discussing and theyre Not Very Happy with you. Apparently, they claim, youve got it all wrong and theyre offended about that. They might be a person of colour, or a queer person. Maybe theyre a woman, or a person with disability. They could even be a trans person or a sex worker. The point is theyre trying to tell you they know better than you about their issues and you know thats just plain wrong. How could you be wrong?
Dont worry though! There IS something you can do to nip this potentially awkward and embarrassing situation in the bud. By simply derailing the conversation, dismissing their opinion as false and ridiculing their experience you can be sure that they continue to be marginalised and unheard and you can continue to look like the expert you know you really are, deep down inside!
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU HAVE PRIVILEGE!
Just follow this step-by-step guide to Conversing with Marginalised People and in no time at all you will have a fool-proof method of derailing every challenging conversation you may get into, thus reaping the full benefits of every privilege that you have.
The best part is, you dont even have to be a white, heterosexual, cisgendered, cissexual, upper-class male to enjoy the full benefits of derailing conversation! Nope, you can utilise the lesser-recognised tactic of Horizontal Hostility to make sure that, despite being a member of a Marginalised Group yourself, you can exercise a privilege another Marginalised Group doesnt have in order not to heed their experience!
Read on, and learn, and remember
you dont have to use these in any particular order! In fact, mixing them up can really keep those Marginalised People on their toes! After all, they are pretty much used to hearing this stuff, so you dont want to get too predictable or theyll get lazy!
If You Wont Educate Me How Can I Learn
If You Cared About These Matters Youd Be Willing To Educate Me
Youre Being Hostile
But That Happens To Me Too!
Youre Being Overemotional
Youre Just Oversensitive NEW!
You Just Enjoy Being Offended NEW!
Dont You Have More Important Issues To Think About NEW!
Youre Taking Things Too Personally
Youre Not Being Intellectual Enough/Youre Being Overly Intellectual
Youre Interrogating From The Wrong Perspective NEW!
Youre Arguing With Opinions Not Fact
Your Experience Is Not Representative Of Everyone
Unless You Can Prove Your Experience Is Widespread I Wont Believe It
I Dont Think Youre As Marginalised As You Claim
Arent You Treating Each Other Worse Anyway NEW!
But Youre Different To The Others NEW!
Well I Know Another Person From Your Group Who Disagrees!
A In B Situation Is Not Equivalent To X In Y Situation
Who Wins Gold in the Oppression Olympics?
You Have A False Consciousness
Youre Not Being A Team Player
Youve Lost Your Temper So I Dont Have To Listen To You Anymore
You Are Damaging Your Cause By Being Angry
Youre As Bad As They Are NEW!
Surprise! I Was Playing Devils Advocate All Along!"
Jasana
(490 posts)since I've been on the Internet. They all piss me off to no end but the one that's aggravating me more and more is the "educate me" one.
Like gee... I really want to explain for the 10,000th time why rape jokes are not funny.
Like gee... I really want to explain for the 10,000th time why I hate being catcalled for the 100,000th time since I first began to try walking down the street while female.
Like gee... I really want to explain for the 10,000th time why the 15,897th boob joke bored me to shit and made me wish I could flush you down a toilet.
Curious question: Why is this group not more active? Do they just prefer to constantly fight it out in GD?
Starry Messenger
(32,375 posts)Speaking only for myself. I cohost in a few other groups too though, and nearly all groups tend to be quieter. GD is like the DU town square.
Jasana
(490 posts)I like where the action is so I'll hang out in GD for awhile longer and I may....may try hanging out in Meta for awhile again. (It scared me a bit the last time I was there. They were all talking about alerts and juries. I've only been on one jury so far. It was my first day after I signed up! I certainly wasn't ready for it but I've always taken my jury notices IRL very seriously so I took this one very seriously as well. I did my best to try to figure out what was going on and then stated why I did what I did so the poster would know how I was thinking.)
I hope I didn't piss off anybody. Ah well, can't please everyone can you? Again, thank you for your answer. I hope I will make a good addition here.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,375 posts)I just had to find this again, for my sanity.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Oh, yeah. I call BINGO! too (with a hat tip to MadrasT)
x-posting of a list in a similar vein over in HoF:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125514622
Starry Messenger
(32,375 posts)Great start to women's history month, eh?