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Related: About this forumScientists claim that overeating is not the primary cause of obesity
". . . the process of getting fat causes overeating."
A perspective article challenges the 'energy balance model,' which says weight gain occurs because individuals consume more energy than they expend. According to the authors, 'conceptualizing obesity as a disorder of energy balance restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms underlying weight gain.' The authors argue for the 'carbohydrate insulin model,' which explains obesity as a metabolic disorder driven by what we eat, rather than how much.
Public health messaging exhorting people to eat less and exercise more has failed to stem rising rates of obesity and obesity-related diseases. The carbohydrate-insulin model makes a bold claim: overeating doesn't cause obesity; the process of getting fat causes overeating.
The current obesity epidemic is due, in part, to hormonal responses to changes in food quality: in particular, high-glycemic load foods, which fundamentally change metabolism. *Focusing on what we eat rather than how much we eat is a better strategy for weight management.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/09/210913135729.htm
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)Is a myth. Its all about the types of food a nd their hormonal impact.
NH Ethylene
(30,994 posts)Evidence that refutes it has been accumulating for several decades. It's time to change the advice given to people about eating and dieting and maybe offer some real hope to people who struggle constantly just to keep from gaining even more weight.
Bernardo de La Paz
(50,792 posts)If you eat lots of empty calories, your body craves food because it is trying to get nutrition. High glycemic foods are mostly empty calories.
If you eat nutritious food, including occasional pizzas, ice cream and such, your body is happy and doesn't ask for as much food.
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)Weight gain and poor health are a function of FAT
Frequency = every time you eat insulin and fat storage goes up
dont do frequent mini meals, avoid snacking, occasional fasting is great
Amount = dont over eat
Type of food = avoid carbs
Im keto, but considering carnivore. Protein is highly satiating and (grass fed) meat is nutrient dense.
OhZone
(3,216 posts)ATKINS!
HA
mzmolly
(51,521 posts)mediterranean?
Faux pas
(15,252 posts)msongs
(69,979 posts)Skittles
(158,224 posts)but I move a lot, walk, exercise, etc
Bernardo de La Paz
(50,792 posts)Though there might be less nutrition per calorie in factory potatoes of any colour than better grown potatoes.
NH Ethylene
(30,994 posts)I think that's why they referred to white potatoes.
BamaRefugee
(3,697 posts)milk, SARA LEE FROSTING, sorry lost control for a second there.
Skittles
(158,224 posts)I am known to buy a slew of cupcakes and only eat the frosting....I kid you not. Bad!
Elessar Zappa
(15,496 posts)I initially tried to lose weight by running long distance 5 times a week and lifting weights 4 times weekly. I lost a little but it wasnt until I changed my diet and ate less and healthier that I was able to lose a substantial amount. Of course now Im back to being obese and am struggling to get motivated to lose the pounds. I like food too much.
Skittles
(158,224 posts)get yourself on www.fitday.com
put in EVERYTHING you eat, daily......eat whatever you want, but don't go over a certain amount of calories (research to find out what a good amount is for you to lose weight slowly but steadily)
fuck diets, they don't work in the long run - do you really want to go the rest of your life not eating potatoes? ridiculous
when you record what you eat, you may find that you wish you'd eaten something more nutritious and filling than that big hunk of cake, for example.....it will make you more aware of where you calories are coming from
WHITT
(2,868 posts)Who's gonna tell Bill Maher?
Hekate
(94,322 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,743 posts)on the gym industry.
Seriously, I owned a small neighborhood a few years ago. I had a very regular clientele. Mostly middle aged people. Same people almost every day. I don't think I ever saw one person lose any weight at all, except for one elderly lady who had become a vegetarian.
LiberalArkie
(16,318 posts)And may cause the body to be more efficient, thus it would take more effort to burn fat.
Mr.Bill
(24,743 posts)I'm not an expert, I only bought the gym to fix it up and flip it. But I think at a certain age you are not doing your joints any good by running five miles on a treadmill every day. You are just making yourself a candidate for a knee and/or hip replacement. Cardio wise, I tend to agree with you more.
LiberalArkie
(16,318 posts)often.
Mr.Bill
(24,743 posts)Swimming would be best.
AlexSFCA
(6,257 posts)physical changes is just a symptom
LakeArenal
(29,721 posts)Always have the patients talk to a psychiatrist.
NH Ethylene
(30,994 posts)The desire to eat is highly regulated by the body.
Yes, some people eat to feel better psychologically, but this also involves a physiological response.
Moebym
(1,025 posts)I had just watched a video on 18 weight loss myths debunked by dieticians.
I've bookmarked this article for future reference.
Farmer-Rick
(11,219 posts)Called "Always Hungry". He explains how insulin and carbs act together to make you hungry and store more fat.
Think about it. If it's simply calories in, calories out, why do fat people get hungry at all? They have all that fat their bodies can eat. Why would they not just use their excess fat then get hungry? But no, despite large amounts of fat, people get really hungry and are driven to eat and store more fat.
The thing with low carb diets is it is more likely to use your own fat and less likely to make you hungry. It's not a magic bullet but it can help a lot.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)We kept it pretty simple and helped 1000s lose body fat. Helped them modify their nutrition and monitor it, moderate cardiovascular activity 3-4 times per week, a good dose of resistance training tailored to each person.
In 22 years I do not remember but a handful who did not lose significant body fat with our simple approach.
Mr.Bill
(24,743 posts)That's an important of it.
forgotmylogin
(7,668 posts)I lost 50 pounds easily eating a keto diet for a year - basically cutting sugar and flour and only small portions of starchy veg.
The interesting part I discovered using the carb manager app that eating 400 calories of pasta would make me feel bloated and ready for a nap, but I could put away a 900 calorie breakfast of bacon and eggs that did not fill me uncomfortably and didn't knock me into a carb coma.
I was totally carb addicted for the longest time, and now at age 50 I feel great. I'm not "skinny" but I can tie my shoes without straining, I snore less, and when I do occasionally eat something with some carbs I find I can't put away potatoes or pasta like I used to. Several bites is enough and quickly becomes unappealing like my body recognizes I don't need it.
I'm less strict on keto now - I will occasionally splurge on an apple or an orange (which now taste like delicious candy since I don't regularly have sugar) or I will eat a mini-bag of popcorn which has about 20 net carbs in a day.
The other thing that made keto much easier is the recent wider availability of zero-carb bread and other products in the grocery store. That was a godsend because one of the logistical problems eating low carb is you can't just throw together a sandwich quickly and that kind of solved the quick meal problem.
bucolic_frolic
(46,611 posts)Weight gain with all the right foods is still possible if you eat too much. Calorie counting is not out the window.
But the insulin-carb model is very useful. Eat the right carbs, in the right proportion to lean proteins and vegetable and fruits is the way to go.
Carbs and junk food and additives and sugars cause inflammation. Wish I could find the YouTube video of a Dr who said she owned an obesity clinic. She called the carbs and sugars a slow poisoning.
Mr.Bill
(24,743 posts)says processed meats are the villian, but she's mainly adressing blood pressure and cholesterol, which are my two problem areas. I have cut back on them and have lost about 15 lbs. At my next physical next month I'm going to discuss reducing the dosage on those meds. One at a time, probably.
ananda
(30,485 posts)No high glycemic carbs; and a balance between protein,
carbs, and fat at every meal.
I also follow the blood type diet.
My weight is perfect for my age, with no underlying
problems.
sybylla
(8,655 posts)Keto completely changed my relationship to food. Before Keto, I would aim for 1300 calories a day - basically 2 meals, and my weight never budged. The carb cravings were killer. Switched to Keto. I eat until I am full. I no longer have to skip one meal a day to manage calories. I have nearly zero cravings. I've finally hit my weight-loss target and my cholesterol has improved. And, according to my last check-up, I have successfully managed to slow down the diabetes train. Maybe with another year on Keto, I can stop it all together.
There is so much more to weight than calories in/calories out. That has always been ever-so-much bullshit.
Elessar Zappa
(15,496 posts)Im obese and I eat a lot of high fat, high carb food. I know if I cut back the calories that I would lose weight because Ive done it before.