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mopinko

(71,823 posts)
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:24 AM Dec 2021

anyone else watching 'the borgias'?

i'm enjoying it, and hoping that they got the history close enough.
it's a time period i mostly know through art history. so it's filling in a lot of gaps.
i only sort of knew about the borgias, and had no idea there had been a borgia pope.

i guess now i see why priests cant marry.

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Irish_Dem

(57,660 posts)
2. I watched it some years back and really enjoyed it.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:38 AM
Dec 2021

Right, no wonder the Church cracked down on the priests.

mopinko

(71,823 posts)
3. i mean, i knew it had to do w their estates
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:44 AM
Dec 2021

didnt rly think about how that was just part of a whole power structure that was so corrupt.
sorta knew that they amassed those estates because they were clerics. but didnt think about the bloodshed that went w that.
and i now know where 'bonfire of the vanities' comes from.

Irish_Dem

(57,660 posts)
6. Right, the acquisition of power and wealth by any means possible.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 09:53 AM
Dec 2021

A totally corrupt power structure from the top down.

I know it was shocking to see a pope and his family act in such horrendous ways.

Reminds me of the current GOP.
Power and wealth at any cost.

mopinko

(71,823 posts)
9. if it had required affirmative actions on his part, it wouldnt have happened.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 10:03 AM
Dec 2021

he doesnt have the guts to actually kill someone w his own hands. or do much else besides wield a golf club.

Irish_Dem

(57,660 posts)
11. The GOP is more subtle than the Borgias.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 10:06 AM
Dec 2021

The GOP causes a great deal of death and destruction with their policies and inaction. And they convince the populace that it is all normal or someone else's fault.

But it is the same basic strategy as the Borgias.

mopinko

(71,823 posts)
12. the overlap w the plague makes it more interesting.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 10:11 AM
Dec 2021

that was a pretty crafty move to send king charles off to a city full of plague.

Irish_Dem

(57,660 posts)
13. Yep. Like the GOP sending off Americans to get the plague.
Sun Dec 26, 2021, 10:21 AM
Dec 2021

The Borgias were very clever and diabolical.

milestogo

(17,843 posts)
15. It's a shame the show was cancelled after 3 seasons.
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:17 AM
Dec 2021

The pope's history wasn't finished.

The actors were great, especially Jeremy Irons and Sean Harris. The costuming was beautiful and the sets were extravagant. I heard it was costing a fortune to produce, and I can see why.

mopinko

(71,823 posts)
16. jeremy irons is why i watched it. so good at evil.
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 10:01 AM
Dec 2021

dead ringers is still the creepiest movie i've ever seen.

yellowdogintexas

(22,722 posts)
19. there are 2 series about them
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 05:22 PM
Jan 2022

This one and and earlier one just called "Borgia"

After you are finished with the Borgias, try out "Medici". Equally interesting family
There were 4 Medici popes.

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