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To All Of Us, Who Made an Hour, A Day, A Week, A Year, or More (Original Post) irisblue Jan 2018 OP
28 yrs nt msongs Jan 2018 #1
Respect! irisblue Jan 2018 #2
I made it. Esophageal cancer and all ghostsinthemachine Jan 2018 #3
Respect! irisblue Jan 2018 #4
Is this an NA/AA thread? ghostsinthemachine Jan 2018 #5
Yeah it is, but you are welcome here. irisblue Jan 2018 #6
It is not exclusively an AA/NA thread progree Jan 2018 #7
I should have included the OA& GA& EA people as well irisblue Jan 2018 #8
Some of us do not belong to or find 12 step programs helpful. OA, GA, EA are all 12 step programs progree Jan 2018 #9
I'm in AA, but we welcome anyone to meetings who's working on recovery. Rhiannon12866 Jan 2018 #16
I am grateful that today is a good day irisblue Jan 2018 #10
someone is always here on DU Skittles Jan 2018 #11
I wish I had something deep to say, but all I can say is I'm glad 2017 is over with progree Jan 2018 #12
2017 sucked bilge water. irisblue Jan 2018 #13
I'm going to do my rain thing again. JayhawkSD Jan 2018 #14
I appreciate your "rain thing" post. Thanks for your insight Stuart G Jan 2018 #15

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
3. I made it. Esophageal cancer and all
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 01:00 AM
Jan 2018

Was tough. Discovered a lot about my friends and family, the healthcare system, cancer etc. Lost a big bunch of good friends, cancer too, but somehow I survived.
Right now I have a leg thing thats keeping me home, serious pain. Everyone thinks it this...or that. But its not cancer related.

progree

(11,463 posts)
7. It is not exclusively an AA/NA thread
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 01:08 AM
Jan 2018

although many who post here are in AA/NA or in other 12 step groups. This group is not exclusively AA/NA, nor exclusively 12 step:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=about&forum=1144

Statement of Purpose
A supportive resource for people recovering from addictions (drugs, alcohol, over-eating, gambling, etc.) which negatively affect all areas of their lives, and for friends and family of recovering or active addicts.


On edit 456 AM ET: did some clarification.

progree

(11,463 posts)
9. Some of us do not belong to or find 12 step programs helpful. OA, GA, EA are all 12 step programs
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 01:18 AM
Jan 2018

as is AA and NA.

Rhiannon12866

(222,072 posts)
16. I'm in AA, but we welcome anyone to meetings who's working on recovery.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 05:46 AM
Jan 2018

And the ToS for this group includes friends and family too.

irisblue

(34,252 posts)
10. I am grateful that today is a good day
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 01:36 AM
Jan 2018

I have pulled pieces and make choices about what works for me today. Rational Recovery, online groups, and the fact that it was too damned cold and snowy today for an arthritic woman to safely put my walker in the snow. What worked for me today was a mix of things.
What works for someone else, I'm not fit to judge. Their joy in their day, I will celebrate though.

progree

(11,463 posts)
12. I wish I had something deep to say, but all I can say is I'm glad 2017 is over with
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 04:58 AM
Jan 2018

Last edited Fri Jan 5, 2018, 11:44 AM - Edit history (10)

maybe my worst year in 2 decades

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On Edit: and tired worn-out support group pablum telling me how I'm supposed to think and feel, or telling me how 2017 was for me, as if I couldn't decide that for myself, isn't the least bit helpful. One ought to be able to say how one's year was or how one is feeling without getting a superior talk-down lecture about wrong-think or being too self-centered. It may be "insightful" in some contexts (though it has been said in the rooms many times for many decades), but as a response to someone saying "2017 ... is maybe my worst year in 2 decades", it is downright bizarre, particularly in a group whose purpose is to be supportive (speaking of down thread, not about the post I'm replying to).

As far as taking myself out of the center, it's a bit hard to do that when it's up to me to deal with and fix or at least ameliorate the disaster.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
14. I'm going to do my rain thing again.
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 10:19 AM
Jan 2018

Rain is a bad thing if you're holding a picnic or a parade. Rain is a good thing if you're a farmer.

Actually, rain is just rain. It is intrinsically and inherently neutral; neither good or bad.

Good and bad are value judgements which we place on rain, and we place those judgements based on how the rain affects us. Rain is bad if it ruins my parade or picnic. Rain is good if it waters my crops.

Living sober and at peace with myself and the world requires taking myself out of the center of my universe. It means that I cannot judge everything by it's effect on me. Doing that is not bad or good, but it doesn't work for me. It creates anger, frustration, distress, and other conditions that lead me to drink to drown those feelings. I could live with those feelings if they were real feelings, but they are not real feelings. They are exaggerated feelings. The rain was not created for the express purpose of ruining my parade.

2017 was not a "bad year." It was just a year like any other year. Good things happened and bad things happened. Trump was not elected for the sole purpose of ruining my life. If I choose to let his election ruin my life then then the wreckage of my life is the result of my choice, not the result of 2017 being a "bad year."

I am not enslaved by events. I have choices, and that freedom, in large part, is created by no longer having myself at the center of my own universe. By not viewing everything and every event through the lens of its effect on me. That's been working and keeping me sober for 35 years now.

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
15. I appreciate your "rain thing" post. Thanks for your insight
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 02:15 PM
Jan 2018

These 2 sentences are very special...

"I am not enslaved by events. I have choices, and that freedom, in large part, is created by no longer having myself at the center of my own universe. By not viewing everything and every event through the lens of its effect on me.....

Thank You Again..

Stuart

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