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cally

(21,704 posts)
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:33 AM Jan 2019

For those in 12 steps programs, how do you handle no politics in program?

I've shared at times in meetings that I'm triggered by current events (Kavanaugh hearings!) without mentioning politics. Others in meetings have been more explicitly political and others have spoken about the need to keep meetings safe from outside politics. It does seem harder to navigate with the current political situation.

Recently, we have a dispute about politics at our weekly lunch. I often go to lunch with a group of friends after meeting and we speak more candidly about politics and our other struggles. One person complained that we shouldn't do this because we are not keeping politics out of AA. How does your community handle this? What are the boundaries between friendship, AA, and traditions. I was told early on that once I left boundary of meeting space, that I could talk politics with friends but this is being questioned because gatherings are after meetings.

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For those in 12 steps programs, how do you handle no politics in program? (Original Post) cally Jan 2019 OP
I left a 12 step program because of the overt religiosity. Funtatlaguy Jan 2019 #1
I handle it (and our groups handle it) by talking about other things. TygrBright Jan 2019 #2
Just Don't Talk Politics PaulX2 Jan 2019 #3
Think about the purpose of the program. JayhawkSD Jan 2019 #4
Most of the meetings I go to at the beginning of the meeting... mitch96 Jan 2019 #5
My meeting is mixed stevil Feb 2019 #6

TygrBright

(20,987 posts)
2. I handle it (and our groups handle it) by talking about other things.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:00 AM
Jan 2019

There's no shortage of material.

Sure, we mention that "the news" or "current events" or whatever adds to our stress, but keep that general.

For most of us, there's plenty of other things to talk about. The Serenity Prayer is a popular topic.

Gatherings after meetings are generally part of the "let there be no gossip or criticism" thing, and if not actually meetings (because, no structure, no speaker, no step topic, etc.) if they include more than two of us, they're Program.

If I'm in a one-on-one with a sponsor or another group member for the purposes of sharing experience, strength hope, offering support, etc., politics may be an area for discussion in the sense of "am I using it as an excuse to 'let' myself be angry or relinquish responsibility for my actions and choices?" but not in any depth.

If I'm in a one-on-one social situation with someone who's also in the Program and we're not actually doing anything Program-related and I know they're someone who shares (generally) my political orientation, we talk about politics just the way I talk about politics with other friends.

responsively,
Bright

 

PaulX2

(2,032 posts)
3. Just Don't Talk Politics
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:58 AM
Jan 2019

It's hard. There's already enough crazy going on. There are a lot of right wing bikers at my hall. I Really don't want to hear anything they have to say about politics.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
4. Think about the purpose of the program.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:30 PM
Jan 2019

My first sponsor said something to me that changed my perception of what the program was all about. He said, "I don't want you to learn how to handle your drinking problem. I want you to become a person who doesn't have a drinking problem."

In addition to becoming a person who doesn't have a drinking problem, a big part of the reason for being in the program is to help you become a person who isn't "triggered by current events." You are not going to become that person by engaging in mutual rants about current events. You are going to become that person by sharing the experience of recovery.

For whatever it's worth I have, in the course of 35 years, become a person who doesn't have a drinking problem, and I have become a person who can be engaged in current events without being "triggered" by them. It's a good life. It takes time and a rigorous practice of the discipline represented by the 12 steps to get there.

mitch96

(14,651 posts)
5. Most of the meetings I go to at the beginning of the meeting...
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 01:04 PM
Jan 2019

It is stated to limit our discussions to problems that relate to alcohol and drinking..
Works for me.. Very little if no discussion of politics.. a welcome relief..
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stevil

(1,537 posts)
6. My meeting is mixed
Thu Feb 7, 2019, 12:12 AM
Feb 2019

When I first sought a a meeting I sought out a mixed bunch. I found it. I live in a very progressive area so it was easier for me than some. No politics. No bullshit. I was so scared of meetings because I went to a few that totally put me off. Had to find one that fit.

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