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mimi85

(1,805 posts)
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 12:33 AM Jul 2014

Saying no to chemo - thoughts?

Hi all, I've been following the posts here and finally got up the nerve to post. I was diagnosed with leukemia (CLL) in 2007 and haven't had any treatments. I'm at the point now where my RBC is horrible - I've had one blood transfusion and several iron transfusions. Another bone marrow biopsy last week and I have to have labs taken every week now. Oh, and a PT Scan this Saturday.

Unfortunately, I have so many other problems that I don't think I would survive chemo anyway. Sjogren's Syndrome (the worst!!), Barrett's Esophagus (waiting for the results of an endoscopy), acoustic neuroma - so I'm deaf in left ear (no big at this point), had emergency brain surgery in 2012 to remove a mengioma that got out of control. It was successfully removed however there are some "atypical cells" left. The doctors couldn't agree. One wanted me to have radiation on them every day for 6 weeks, the other said to get an MRI every 6 months which is what I'm doing. My recent one last month showed all ok now, except slight dementia starting (my husband would attest to this).

Mild COPD, some sort of bowel problems as yet not diagnosed, severe bladder prolapse - I won't get into the gory details on the last two.

Well, there is even more but I'm sure I've bored everyone enough. My veins are thrashed so during my BMB the doctor said they would put a port in when I started chemo. There were other people in the room so I didn't feel comfortable talking to the her then. I have a follow up appointment in about a week and I've decided to tell her no thanks to chemo. I can barely walk out to the mailbox, my fatigue is so bad.

I haven't dwelled on this at all; I knew the day would come so I've made my decision. Any thoughts/support would be helpful. Best to all of you, Jennifer aka Mimi

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Saying no to chemo - thoughts? (Original Post) mimi85 Jul 2014 OP
You had me at  Sjogren's Syndrome... littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #1
Please accept my sympathy for what you are going through. TexasTowelie Jul 2014 #2
I believe we all have the power to make our own decisions about our health care. sinkingfeeling Jul 2014 #3
Sending you hugs. Solly Mack Jul 2014 #4
Thanks to all! mimi85 Jul 2014 #5
Support coming for whatever decision you make ... slipslidingaway Jul 2014 #6
Sorry, just seeing your message now Tab Aug 2014 #7
I debated refusing chemo but decided to go for it, now finishing 11/12 rounds wordpix Aug 2014 #8

littlemissmartypants

(25,483 posts)
1. You had me at  Sjogren's Syndrome...
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:32 AM
Jul 2014

Do what pleases you. That's the most important thing to do. I'm here if you need a friend.

TexasTowelie

(116,749 posts)
2. Please accept my sympathy for what you are going through.
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:48 AM
Jul 2014

I don't really know what advice to give, but it sounds like you have been through a lot over the last seven years. I had to look up some of the conditions that you have since I wasn't familiar with them, but now that I researched them it seems like chemotherapy would be especially difficult for you.

You obviously have known that you've been in a near terminal state throughout this time so I hope that you were able to make the best occur throughout those years. From my personal POV, I'd rather focus on enjoying whatever time that remains and building memories with those around me than go through the pain of chemotherapy. While I only know you online, it appears that you have made a difference in the lives of others and will be missed.

sinkingfeeling

(52,988 posts)
3. I believe we all have the power to make our own decisions about our health care.
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 08:16 AM
Jul 2014

I support you on whatever you decide. (I declined chemo, but did do the radiation for my cancer).

Solly Mack

(92,760 posts)
4. Sending you hugs.
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 08:27 AM
Jul 2014

You know your body and you know the pros and cons and you made a decision that was best for you. That's all any of us can do.

I wish you all the best.

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
5. Thanks to all!
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 10:15 PM
Jul 2014

Your support means a lot. I'll try and keep you posted. And if I can offer support to anyone (about what I don't know), please let me know. Again, thanks so much for your thoughts.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
6. Support coming for whatever decision you make ...
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 10:09 PM
Jul 2014

although it sounds as if you have already made one.

Some types of chemo have to be done through a port, but that should not be reason against chemo as it can be a life saver.

No matter what the decision, I wish you well.



Tab

(11,093 posts)
7. Sorry, just seeing your message now
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 08:54 AM
Aug 2014

(just enmeshed in my own problems)

As for a port, I have one (actually it's my second, we removed the first after we thought I was "cured&quot . It beats the hell out of getting regular IV's. If you have any expectation of need of continued intravenous medication, a port makes all the difference.

As far as, should you do chemo? That's up to you. Personally I'm doing chemo, but I've had some drugs that were so debilitating that I ultimately dropped them - extending the quantity of life does nothing for me if the quality sucks. I accept a reduced quality of life as a result of the illness, but if I can't actually function, then what's the point?

If you've decided not to, I support it. If you're unsure, I'd say try it, and if life improves, great. It's not a yes-or-no deal - you get to test drive for as long as you like. And if you stop liking the ride, it's your option to stop.

I may do that myself; if this next series of stuff is really negative, I may stop and let the clock run out, no longer feeling invincible but at least free of hospitals and debilitating treatments. On the other hand, if I tolerate it, I'll keep going. I'm under no illusions that I'll be here 15 years from now, but I've already passed my expiration date, so who knows?

Best with whatever you decide. Make the decision that gives you the most happiness.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
8. I debated refusing chemo but decided to go for it, now finishing 11/12 rounds
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 10:03 AM
Aug 2014

Not saying it was a breeze but it isn't/wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. However, chemo treatments differ. Also, the only problem I've had throughout is cancer (stage 4 but all tumors---3---were resectable). I did a lot of research and spoke to many friends/acquaintances who did or did not do chemo so I did my homework. Decided based on the research that doing chemo would increase my chance of survival 5-10% so I went for it. However, I refused the 3-drug cocktail in favor of 2-drug. I also do supplements based on Cancer Centers of America's integrative approach, guided by a local naturopath. I also eat 100% organic or close to it as I truly believe the poisoning of the planet ---pesticides in our food and water, for example--- is killing us

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