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Tab

(11,093 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:25 PM Nov 2012

Fucking platelets

Normal platelet range is 140k to 400k. Mine usually hover around 74k, but lately they've been at 60k. I haven't had chemo for six weeks.

On Tuesday I had an immunoglobulin transfusion. The way low platelets come about is actually through two vectors. Either your bone marrow sucks at making platelets, or your bone marrow is okay at making platelets but a portion of your immune system kills off the platelets that are made.

The Immuglobulin infusion is meant to introduce a decoy, so if the latter scenario is the case, they'll go after the IG components and not the real platelets.

However, if that's not the case, then the next step is a bone marrow biopsy to determine if the bone marrow is damaged.

And if it IS damaged, then I don't want to go there.... I'm imaging a transplant situation, and I don't want to speculate too much on what if's. Presumably that's a significantly worse situation than I'm in right now (and for those who don't know, that's Stage IV colorectal with mets to the lungs).

So, I'll find out Monday. We'll see.

- Tab

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Fucking platelets (Original Post) Tab Nov 2012 OP
Good luck, Tab.......I hope everything works out for the very best... CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2012 #1
good luck rurallib Nov 2012 #2
Hoping for the best Tab. likesmountains 52 Nov 2012 #3
Hoping for good news, Tab Irishonly Nov 2012 #4
Try not to KC Nov 2012 #5
So sorry about the platelets and sure hoping it is a side effect ... slipslidingaway Nov 2012 #6
We got your back, bud. Evoman Nov 2012 #7
Update Tab Nov 2012 #8
Hey there mimi85 Nov 2012 #9
Well, I did get chemo Tab Nov 2012 #10
Platelets plummeted to 54k again Tab Dec 2012 #11
Is there anything they can do to help you with your platelets? Irishonly Dec 2012 #12
Well, as I said Tab Dec 2012 #13
General update Tab Dec 2012 #14
Best wishes that the higher ... slipslidingaway Dec 2012 #15
donated platelets Aiden08 Dec 2012 #16
Thank you for doing that Tab Dec 2012 #17
Didn't work Tab Dec 2012 #18
Please don't give up. Where are you getting treatment? I know some cancer centers are sinkingfeeling Jan 2013 #19

KC

(1,995 posts)
5. Try not to
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:36 AM
Nov 2012

do any more of the what ifs... they just add a lot of extra stress that you don't need right now!
Please let us know what you find out next week.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
6. So sorry about the platelets and sure hoping it is a side effect ...
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:17 PM
Nov 2012

from recent chemo and that recent IVIG treatment produces a positive outcome.

And I wish that I could make the "waiting period" disappear.

Evoman

(8,040 posts)
7. We got your back, bud.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:33 PM
Nov 2012

I need you to stay nice and healthy, to give me some hope (no pressure )

My girlfriends mother had to get a stem cell replacement...at first, we couldnt find a donor but we finally did in Seattle. She had some mold host vs graft issues, but she is doing fantastic right now. Keep your head up/

p.s. Have they ever though of including Avastin or some sort of biological in your treatment? It's expensive as shit, but results have been promising.

Tab

(11,093 posts)
8. Update
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 06:31 PM
Nov 2012

Plates boosted a little - from 60k to 72k. Not a lot, but enough to let me have chemo on Wednesday (we don't do it if it's below 70k). So just barely in there. I guess that's a good thing.

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
9. Hey there
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 04:29 AM
Nov 2012

Followed you from the other thread. I go see my CLL specialist next week at UCSD. I'm always a wreck and my husband and I are usually on the verge of divorce before we get there! Not really, but it IS stressful.

How did your chemo go? I had a BMB done at the beginning of last year and my bones now are impacted with 60% crappy cells. When I was first dx'ed in 2007, they were 30%. So Dr Castro said we'd have to do something probably soon. Well, here it is in November, so I'll prolly need another one - they're really no big deal. I've been on W&W all this time. When they were handing out shitty immune systems, I got the short straw. Everything I get is chronic, oh joy. Also have Sjogren's Syndrome - now that's a bitch!!

I had emergency brain surgery this past May (unrelated to the CLL - a mengioma that grew out of control - some "atypical" cells appeared, another story for later). So, when I went down last June, the doc said just to recover from the surgery and I was supposed to see him last August. Talk about procrastinating! I'll start my own thread soon, didn't mean to hijack yours!

So how did it go? Take good care, Jennifer
G'nite all...

Tab

(11,093 posts)
10. Well, I did get chemo
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 10:37 AM
Nov 2012

as posted. I've been getting it all year, except when platelets didn't cooperate (which they haven't, the last two months). So I managed to get one treatment in. The thing now to watch out for is whether the platelets stay high enough (and they were just barely high enough this time) to get me subsequent treatments.

Hang in there, it sounds like you're going through a lot.

Tab

(11,093 posts)
11. Platelets plummeted to 54k again
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 08:04 AM
Dec 2012

Unless they magically get back up over 70k by Tuesday (unlikely) no more chemo.

This sucks. The chemo destroys your ability to get chemo.

Targeted gene therapy would be the way to go, but it costs upwards of $100k to get sequenced, and I don't have that, and certainly insurance won't pay for that.

Irishonly

(3,344 posts)
12. Is there anything they can do to help you with your platelets?
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 10:15 PM
Dec 2012

There are no two ways about it chemo is destructive. I remember that I was put in the hospital twice while in chemo because my blood counts were critical. I am sorry but I do not remember if my platelets were involved or if any of the transfusions addressed low platelets counts. It has been too long ago. It just seems to me there must be something to help get your counts up.

It is unfair a treatment is withheld because of insurance.It's wrong on so many levels.

Tab

(11,093 posts)
13. Well, as I said
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:27 AM
Dec 2012

There are two causes of low platelets. One is that you successfully make platelets, but a portion of your immune system kills them off after they're created. For that, you can have an immunoglobulin infusion (which I did the other week) which basically creates decoys that get killed instead of the platelets. We did this, and my platelets went up to 72k, which is not huge, but it's something (a really successfull infusion would have kicked it way higher). So that's part of the equation.

The other way you have low platelets is by having a shitty bone marrow. You would test this with a bone marrow biopsy. That's probably my next step. Then, if it's confirmed that the bone marrow is damaged, I think the only recourse is a bone marrow transplant.

I'm not aware of any other avenues. Actually, that's not true - steroids could help, but because I have chemo-induced diabetes, I can't take steroids - they exacerbate the situation (and actually create it to begin with).

Tab

(11,093 posts)
14. General update
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:13 PM
Dec 2012

Platelets have not been cooperative, so we're going to do a higher immunoglobulin infusion (2.5x higher), and drop the 5-FU and add in Avastin. Since they did respond to the IG IV, although not incredibly, it was still a low dose and thus expectations are that it's IPT (where your system tries to kill your platelets) rather than totally trashed bone marrow (although I presume mine is trashed to a certain extent). The upshot is that hopefully the higher infusion will allow my platelets to get up to a decent level, and that by backing off the chemo I might actually be able to stay able enough to continue to receive it.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
15. Best wishes that the higher ...
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 11:20 PM
Dec 2012

IVIG dose does the trick for your platelets. Maybe they'll run it at a slower infusion rate to avoid any side effects, first time my husband had an IVIG treatment they had to stop, run tests and then restart. In the long run a slower rate might have been better all around. Let us know how it goes, positive thoughts coming your way

Aiden08

(7 posts)
16. donated platelets
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 04:56 PM
Dec 2012

Ohh Very sorry to hear about it. I remember that I have donated platelets to a man once in life. I don't remember what disease which he was suffering but my friend asked me to save his life and I donate my platelets to him. The doctors attached me with a machine by a needle in my arm. Its more painful then a blood donating.

Tab

(11,093 posts)
17. Thank you for doing that
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 05:08 PM
Dec 2012

Platelets have a short shelf life (I think, 4 days), and they're invaluable, so I'm sure you saved someone's life that day.

Tab

(11,093 posts)
18. Didn't work
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 05:12 PM
Dec 2012

Maybe no one cares, I don't know - don't want to whine. Platelets did not go up - in fact, platelets are down, WBCs are dangerously down, can't go forward. Have had only one chemo in 5 months (or maybe 2). No good news. I don't know why the fuck I bother, honestly.

sinkingfeeling

(52,990 posts)
19. Please don't give up. Where are you getting treatment? I know some cancer centers are
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 12:05 PM
Jan 2013

better equiped than others for complications and difficulties.

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