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NightWatcher

(39,358 posts)
1. I have horrible veins for IV's and blood draws
Sun May 18, 2014, 03:24 PM
May 2014

I tell them to use the small butterfly needle and I know that my best veins are near my wrist in line with my thumb.

Be sure to drink plenty of liquids the day BEFORE you go in for lab work as well as the day of. I don't drink caffeine the day of the blood draw. I have found that staying hydrated and knowing how to have my blood drawn help me avoid being a human pin cushion.

I must be doing ok, I'm down to every 6 months with my rheumy, but I'm about to start up with new doctors at Mayo, so I'm guessing I'll give a couple of gallons in the next few months.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
2. Drinking water ahead of a blood draw is a good reminder - my mouth is always dry, so I tend
Sun May 18, 2014, 03:33 PM
May 2014

not to drink enough water. I know that the last few times the phlebotomists have had problems finding a vein.

But - my real problem is the notion of getting anything injected. I think it goes back to some nasty penicillin shots I had as a little kid in the late 50's. Oddly enough, having an IV put in is no problem at all!

Warpy

(113,130 posts)
3. Oh, just make sure it's in a bright place with plenty of stuff to distract you.
Sun May 18, 2014, 03:56 PM
May 2014

If it's in your bottom, turn your foot on that side slightly inward to relax the muscle.

If they want to give it in your arm, tell them you'd prefer it in your bottom, it's a bigger muscle with fewer nerve endings and you won't be sore at all.

I'm not going to tell you to get over it, phobias just don't work that way. Focusing your attention elsewhere can help.

I started looking right at it when I was three. I found it hurt less if I watched. I don't have a phobia, though.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
4. Look. I used to be like you and then I started forcing myself to look.
Sun May 18, 2014, 07:45 PM
May 2014

It may sound weird, but it really helped me get over my queasiness about needles and injections.

mopinko

(71,713 posts)
8. i have to look.
Sat May 24, 2014, 09:56 PM
May 2014

i try to look away, but i feel the prick, and i look.
just got a jab in a nerve. that was fun.

fwiw, everybody but everybody hates it. it's a thankless job.

agree about the butterfly, tho. way more comfy because it doesnt have that glass lever on it.

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
7. I discovered
Mon May 19, 2014, 10:01 AM
May 2014

that the smell of the alcohol wipe was a big factor for me, triggering that queasiness. It might be worth it to try a different disinfectant - hydrogen peroxide, maybe?

 

lululu

(301 posts)
9. butterfly needles
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 04:30 PM
Jun 2014

As someone else said, they reduce the pain to almost zero. They cost a bit more, so some phlebotomists are reluctant to use them.

I don't watch, usually. I have blood drawn about once a month. I go to a small lab, so I know the 2-3 workers there, maybe that helps as I feel I'm around friends.

Updated to add: I read your original post again and now I'm confused. Are you saying blood draws don't bother you but injections do? I was blathering away about blood draws

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
10. and what's even more wierd, getting hooked up to an IV doesn't bother me,
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 02:55 PM
Jun 2014

just an injection! Boy! those childhood traumas really hang on!

 

lululu

(301 posts)
12. what is it about an injection?
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 01:56 AM
Jun 2014

My childhood was so far away that I don't remember those. What is the extra feature about an injection?

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
13. As near as I can figure out, I was exposed to strep throat back around 1959 or so, and my Mom took
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 02:19 AM
Jun 2014

me and my younger siblings to the doctor for a penicillin injection. That went into the buttocks. It's not the practice now, but my mother had had scarlet fever with permanent heart damage, so it seemed a wise precaution back then. It's possible that routine polio and DPT shots were also a factor. I know the old style DPT used to leave a rather sore arm. Add to that smallpox vaccinations - incredibly ucky by any standard. That wasn't an injection per se, but a scratch on the arm that developed into a pock. (I think that's it! I get sick just thinking about the smallpox vaccination!)

 

lululu

(301 posts)
14. smallpox
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:54 PM
Jun 2014

That made me go look at the back of my arm. Guess what, that mark is gone. It must have taken decades to disappear. No wonder I haven't thought of it in a long time, it eventually vanished.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
15. Years ago, a friend of my grandmother had to get her small pox renewed before a trip back to Ireland
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 01:15 AM
Jun 2014

Back then, you traveled by boat and had to have a vaccination to enter the US. The friend asked her doctor about getting the vaccination on her thigh so as not to have a scar on her arm. He said it was fine with him, but what if the Immigration officer demanded to see the scar as proof!

Warpy

(113,130 posts)
17. That explains part of it, penicillin injections are the worst
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 05:06 PM
Jun 2014

Reconstituted in a vial, the penicillin has the same consistency as the brown glue they used to make out of old horses. It's thick and requires a large bore needle to inject.

I had a lot of them when I was a kid because my mother was stubborn and kept refusing a tonsillectomy for me. She was right, by the way.

I gave smallpox immunizations in the 60s, they were a drop of attenuated virus on the skin and 6 to 8 quick punctures within the drop of liquid to get it just below the skin. Typhoid immunization was worse, it was given between the layers of skin.

They were still one hell of a lot better than the diseases they prevented or cured.

Nite Owl

(11,303 posts)
11. Try to distract yourself
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 08:45 PM
Jun 2014

Talk about anything, nice day etc.
Maybe go through some mail on your cell phone.
After a while maybe you'll get mor used to it.

Warpy

(113,130 posts)
16. Not really, true phobias don't respond to logic
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 04:59 PM
Jun 2014

and only desensitization over time makes a dent in them.

I watch blood draws and shots, it seems to make them hurt less. I've also given myself intra muscular injections of chemo drugs for 5 years at a time (then my GI system rebels and I have to do something else).

All you can do is make sure the phlebotomist or care giver knows you need to sit or lie down. If you get this stuff frequently, try telling yourself it didn't kill you this time or the last time, maybe it won't kill you next time. That helps desensitization.

blondie58

(2,570 posts)
19. Sorry, I am really late to this thread
Sun Oct 5, 2014, 07:58 PM
Oct 2014

But I would suggest a BIG drink beforehand to plump your veins. Try to meditate. You may not even notice. These have worked for me. 😼

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