I used to own (read have a mortgage) a house. There was a local home owners' association. I did not join.

It's worse in condos. I'm sorry you have to deal with this.

I couldn't believe the trouble gone to to call the rental agency when a knock on the door would have fixed it in 15 seconds. Its like he wanted this crime on record

The term busy-body was coined for them. I saw one on Judge Judy who carried a gun.

To tell me he has some type of complex cancers, so he's been not in the lot with minion 2. Guess not worry so much about potholes, and ashtrays..

Btw, minion 2 has the cops out for his fights with his lover. But again he's an owner.

That particular community was mostly homeowner ccupied, except for a few units that were rented out by their individual owners. Some time back, the board had made a rule against owners renting out units. Those that were already occupied by renters got grandfathered in, but (unbeknownst to us) were resented by those who would have preferred not to have to share their precious community with riffraff renters like us.

I won't list all of the annoying things that happened while we were living there, because it would take too long, but they included a management office (paid by the board to handle general upkeep) that was staffed with incredibly rude people and a few neighbors who would call the office to complain about every little thing rather than talking directly to resented riffraff renters like us. It gradually became apparent that we renters were second class citizenst, and it was not a great feeling!

We stayed as long as we did because it was a genuinely nice place to live, on the whole, and because our landlord was a peach who took care of things that needed taking care off while otherwise leaving us alone and rarely increasing the rent.

When he died, his son wanted to put the unit on the market. He lived hundreds of miles away, and was not interested in being a landlord, which was entirely understandable. We were ready to go by then anyway, so we started looking for a new place and moved when our lease ran out.

We are much happier where we are now, in a large apartment complex where there isn't a two tiered class system of homeowners snd renters.

Unfortunately, this place has gotten too expensive for us, so we're.looking again. If not for the cost, we'd stay here indefinitely.

My SO is friendly with so many here, including a 90 yr old with a Walker in love with him, leaving him notes and candy. There seem to be a goodly amount of renters here. But yes, I def feel like theres a flavor of renters being a bit lower on the scale. These two seem the worst. Minion 2 lover seems to have a crush on my SO. So maybe there's some jealousy. But he calls the cops on ppl walking late at night. Has a garden that extends out, puts potted plants on the stairs in my way, of course I can't say anything. Anyway, former hoa leader is undergoing cancer treatment or something. I wished him well. It was creepy to constantly see the 2 of them together outside, talking about god knows what. We don't keep anything on the hand rail now.

called the Condo Nazis. They hated everyone who was not like them: upper middle class retired, and could afford to travel a lot, and golf daily. I was a lowly working stiff and drove a 10 year old car.
Fast forward to today, my hub and I downsized and now rent in a disabled accessible 2BR 2 BA apartment I love my renter neighbors and nobody cares who has more money or a new car. People look out for the less mobile folks and will offer to pick up groceries or run errands for them.

People can be such assholes. Little do they realize what neighborly friendship perks they miss out on, by being so nasty.

Take Care

The main sentinel is ill now and not seen very much. Id always get nervous seeing him and the other one talking together outside

"People suck. ALL people suck. But, a few of us realize that we all suck and try not to suck so badly." - David M.

Wisdom for the ages, as far as I am concerned.

I miss living in the neighborhoods I used to dwell in. Like in East Nashville, where we all knew each other and watched out for each other. If someone they did not recognize pulled into a driveway and the homeowner was not at home, there would be five neighbors over there checking things out. Not in a militant way, just asking if they needed anything and making sure those in the car knew they were being watched. We always helped each other out with anything. In fact, I have an example of how wonderful those neighbors were.

What a mess this was. Yet, we all pitched in. (Do not get me started on the complete lack of city or county aid in this matter. We saw one city pickup stop at the end of the street, look down towards us for about ten seconds, and then left. That was the only city/county presence we saw that day. Oh, except for the two trucks and a crew than arrived at the home of a high ranking deputy who lived about four blocks from us. He got his place cleaned up really nice by the grunts for Davidson County Sheriff's Department. They did not do anything for anyone else that day.)