But it is a discipline and takes a little committment. I took a ten day Veposhina(sp), no idea how to spell it in 1976. It was mind expanding but I've had horrible follow through.

It is good for getting a grip on that blathering parent tape and putting it on forced ignore. That seems to be the 'voice' that wants to interrupt when I get two seconds of silence, and it exclaims you're doing it.


We'd all be better for a little serenity prayer and meditation each day. It is that time of year for resolutions.

You first.

And you're due for a refresher.

As for me on the resolution think, well, if you insist,

I hereby resolve to continue my 33-year practice of daily meditation.

I'm due to add more discipline into my life. I was awarded disability in May. I'm so grateful. I slacked off and went into a freefloat.

I'm searching for that age old quest: Who am I, and what is my purpose? I'm a bit unfulfilled, at this point.

Woman's search for meaning.


Thank you for the spelling. And I totally admire your disciple in practicing your meditation

I have a daily Alanon reading that gives my ship an mini manifesto.

Thanks for bringing this book to my attention.

I noticed a couple of related books that look interesting, and am wondering if anyone here has experience with them:

Emotional Intelligence: 10th Anniversary Edition; Why It Can Matter More Than IQ
by Daniel Goleman (husband of Tara Bennett-Goleman)

Emotional Intelligence 2.0
by Travis Bradberry (Hardcover)

My time is limited, so I won't be reading all of them, mostly looking for a starting point to work on some of these issues. I have plenty of experience with mindfulness meditation, mostly looking to improve emotional and social competence.

I haven't looked at their entry, but I do know that a number of psychologists don't see it as quite as important as Goleman does. Judge for yourself.

BTW, Goleman has also written about meditation. His book The Meditative Mind is a great intro to the various meditative traditions. He's written some new stuff too, including a book with Richard Davidson (UW-Madison psychological researcher who is frequently visited by the Dalai Lama), but I haven't seen the newer things.

I find more active things do like art etc.keep me connected. Just letting thoughts come and go is not a good thing for me .My thoughts come and go all day,I can lose entire days.
And I haven't a clue where it went. Dissociation can be like meditation as can Hyper-focus like in ADHD which I also have. And yes I have focused to the point I saw the blueness and beyond and completely was aware of everything and non-being..I still feel deep sadness and tortured dreams waking up heart pounding hard.

This very thread only supports why we need another group
as the one you have proposed in Meta...designed more for research,
and discussions such as this very one.
My 2 cents.
I think JPR has the very best intentions, but we need another forum
for these types of discussions.

BHN

And the expression of personal experience is decidely not my goal for the propsed group, which I hope to be driven by published reports.

I think within this thread there is an important point being made:
Our experiences while perhaps not unique are very idiosyncratic.

DBT and the many subsequent approaches related to Bhuddism argued by Kabat-Zinn and Linehan and her acolytes, work for many. Linehan designed DBT with women in mind and that's the population on which it's validating clinical trials were conducted.

The person to whom I replied has a similar profile to my own. Meditation didn't work for the person to whom I was responding, and DBT and 'mindfulness' didn't work for me. That IS our experience. It's limited and idiosyncratic, but it shouldn't be invalidated. Indeed the realization that I am not alone in my struggle with ineffectiveness is somewhat reassuring. It is not JUST me.

It's probably an important thing to have on record. EVERY therapy DOES NOT work for everyone.

JP is a licensed clinician would probably appreciate that.

I think it's a mistake to be mesmerized by the notion that a safe zone can only include posts which are positive and uplifting. It's really about being empathetic and avoiding comments that could be triggering

No one expects complete positiveness in any other peer-to-peer group, I don't see a useful purpose for that standard here.

I thought it was just me.