well, all i can say is that you are in for several months of bullshit, followed by inner peace.

and frankly, you are lucky his first move was to move out. the 3 months between the final break and managing to force him out of the house were the longest of my life.

take care of yourself, honey.

but there was no way he was staying here after what happened the other night and he took his first load yesterday.

all i can say is thank gods there's no money or children involved.

i miss him terribly in some ways, but not others.

Some damn thing's in the air apparently, even tho 2000 miles apart; same with my son in law and daughter (with 2 little ones.)

where to turn for relief.

Seems we've got to find peace within ourselves.
Letting go of anger and fear, if only for brief periods.
Changing our thoughts by envisioning our own place of peace.
One minute, ten minutes, 20 minutes at a time.

My thoughts are with those troubled by their current situation.

but easier for us to say than the 'tormented' ones to do.

Awful to think of fizz, and my tormented daughter who wants for her children. Daughter has needed help for years, and didn't obtain it; I told her then fiance, he ignored my suggestions and went on to marry and have 2 children. (The kids appear happy now, @ 2.5 years and 7 months.)

going through this pain and hurt at this time, and you're powerless to fix it, as a mama always wants to do.

You're there for your daughter and kids, if only in love and empathy. That's got to help daughter, just knowing that she has the love and support of her Mom. Encourage daughter to leave doors open (figuratively) for children to have a relationship with their father (and his family). This is harder when they're so young that dad/husband hasn't bonded with them as personalities, but can be done when the adults are mature enough to see the long-range picture, and when/if daughter can put aside her grievances and hurt (not easy).

We here unite in empathetic support of fizzgig, and lend an ear to her pain.

i still haven't had a hug since this happened, but i'm afraid that i'll start crying and never stop if i do get one.

i'm sorry that your daughter is going through this, too. i can only imagine how much harder it must be with the little ones.

2d hand

As much as it sucks now, it could have been a necessary step for you to get to a better place somewhere down the line. Silver linings.

You are cared about.

my dad told me there was some underlying lesson that i had to learn with this. i am sure the both of you are right.

I wish there was something I could do to make you feel better - but there really isn't - just time and support.

I know how much things hurt right now and just know there are so many of us who care about you

this is just such a strange place to find myself in.

yes, it will keep hurting at times very badly. Some, if not the worst, pain in your life, but it does end one day. Your life does get better.

If you two stay together, then, I wish you all the best.

How awful for you.

I wish so much that I could really help...........

I will sure listen if you ever want to talk.

And I'm terribly sorry for your trouble I certainly hope you're feeling much, much better. I think of you often and send you good vibes all the time; I sure hope you're receiving them, especially in your time of need. Miss you doll, and I'm hoping to be moving back to your area within the next year if not sooner. Please allow me to take you out to lunch to catch up when I return to my beloved adopted hometown, my treat, and we can talk about whatever you want! Hang in there and I hope to see you real soon!