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One thing that I have to be weary of is my interactions with my brother. He also seems to deal with issues of depression. At times he lays out so many of his issues on the table that he in turn gets me depressed; meanwhile, I am the opposite and keep everything bottled up inside of me because I realize that nobody really wants to be around someone who is depressed. When I get tired of hearing my brother moan about his problems I try to isolate myself from him because I do realize that he triggers depression and anxiety in me, but when I do that he turns around and berates me with verbal abuse.

I would suggest that you need to be wary of the things that you discuss with your son because they may trigger issues inside him. If you don't have anything positive to say to him, then it might be time to back away and give him some breathing room. I know it is sometimes difficult to recognize our own toxic behavior, but if that is an issue between the two of you then it becomes important to learn to avoid those episodes.

Good luck to both of you.

I would suggest that you need to be wary of the things that you discuss with your son because they may trigger issues inside him. If yoy don't have anything positive to say to him, then it might be time to back away and give him some breathing room. I know it is sometimes difficult to recognize our own toxic behavior, but if that is an issue between the two of you then it becomes important to learn to avoid those episodes.

We have 4 sons one who may be bipolar. It's possible that he has been diagnosed and is receiving treatment. That is just a guess as he lives a long way off. When we are together he seems more stable which may be because of medication, but I have been following your advice before you gave it. I have always enjoyed repartee but he takes it all so personal. With me it was a defense. Anyway If he is snarky to me I just smile and take it like a good Dad. This has made things much better.

I think that a lot of people do not recognize the personal boundaries of others which can trigger the manic episodes.

It's been about five years since I realized an actual hug so being appreciated in the cyber-world has become my fallback.

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Person xxx I know runs into problems when they miss meds. Cold medicine and other over the counter items sometimes mix with conflicting results. Weight gain or loss will also have effect on prescription and treatment. Sometimes weight gain will be a side effect of prescriptions. Try to keep son and yourself physically active, it helps the persons I know.

God bless brother, it's a difficult path you're on.

And as an outpatient get him a thorough work up including neuropsych testing. I've been a psych nurse for decades, I've met your son 1000's of times. When people come to an acute psych unit in crisis, we make the best diagnosis we can & start meds asap. We rarely do a thorough work up & don't have time to fine tune meds. Finding a competent outpatient provider will be essential. The work is done when the person is discharged from the hospital.
My brother is bipolar. Initially he did not believe it, it took several hospitalizations to get him stabilized some of that was due to his non-compliance & other times it was due to the nature of the illness & fine tuning his meds. My brother is 64 years old, he was initially diagnosed as schizophrenic in his early 20's. Once we got an accurate diagnosis & effective treatment, his life got much better. He has been married, raised children, still working & looking forward to retirement. He's had long stretches of stability & knows when his meds aren't working early enough he's been able to avoid crisis. It took a while to get there.
As far as what you can do, take care of yourself so you have the energy to be his advocate & support.

he was 5150'd from school in second grade .. it was a 7 day stay

Just know you are not alone .. and it's not easy .

Take Care

The psychiatrist feels he is stable enough. His mom and I are a bit nervous. We'll monitor him extremely closely. Thanks for your support!