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MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
Thu May 25, 2017, 04:05 PM May 2017

Are there any herbal or dietary remedies for anxiety?

I am already seeing a psychiatrist for anxiety and depression. I have to take my medication at night. I seem to be fine in the morning, but by afternoon, I start to have anxiety again.

I've told the doctor, and she increased my dosage. It's helping a little, and I sleep better and feel better in the mornings, but the afternoon anxiety is still there. In the evening I take my meds and am feeling better again.

I am not one of those people who is anti-medication, if you're wondering. I'd just like to know if there is anything additional, like an herbal tea or something, that I could ingest in the afternoon that might calm me down or take some of the edge off my anxiety.

Thanks in advance!

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Are there any herbal or dietary remedies for anxiety? (Original Post) MountCleaners May 2017 OP
I have a mug of cammomile tea in the afternoon. nt irisblue May 2017 #1
can you get a med card in your state? samnsara May 2017 #2
St. John's wort shenmue May 2017 #3
Yes, this works well CanonRay May 2017 #15
Recommend caution with St. John's wort worstexever May 2017 #21
Plus, it triggered photo sensitivity in me elfin Jul 2017 #29
here.... DonViejo May 2017 #4
I like L-theanine for focus and anxiety. Jane Austin May 2017 #5
lemon balm helps with l-theanine triron Sep 2017 #40
That's interesting to know. Thanks! n/t BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2017 #42
consult with your Dr. if adding herbal supplements to your Rx meds Freethinker65 May 2017 #6
Sounds like you are taking the wrong medicine marylandblue May 2017 #7
Many people have found that magnesium can offset anxiety symptoms. Mrs. Overall May 2017 #8
I was going to add magnesium to the discussion. Control-Z Jul 2017 #34
Ask your Psychatrist postatomic May 2017 #9
Here's something WhiteTara May 2017 #10
If you're taking it at suppertime, delay it until bedtime. Warpy May 2017 #11
Pot, indica's especially. ghostsinthemachine May 2017 #12
I had a rough year leading into 2016. Multiple deaths of close loved ones. CentralMass Jul 2017 #30
some of the remedies above and... 2naSalit May 2017 #13
Kava kava- the tea is mild enough. Helped a friend through her rough divorce. bettyellen May 2017 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Worktodo May 2017 #17
Interesting becasue while I think a cup of tea occasionally is nice.... bettyellen May 2017 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Worktodo May 2017 #20
Not an herbal remedy, but... Adsos Letter May 2017 #16
Thanks for the advice MountCleaners May 2017 #22
Not without a doctor's okay - some of that stuff interacts poorly with head meds. elehhhhna May 2017 #18
Rescue Remedy Bayard Jul 2017 #23
you probably know this already but.... steve2470 Jul 2017 #24
chamomile tea and many herbal teas are naturally caffeine free still_one Jul 2017 #25
good info, thanks! nt steve2470 Jul 2017 #26
try some Hyland's Nerve Tonic Skittles Jul 2017 #27
Kava Kava is one that is amazing. It is like nature's valium and it doesn't DK504 Jul 2017 #28
Have your doc try a different anti-anxiety med if the one you're taking isn't working for you. emulatorloo Jul 2017 #31
You may also need a med that you take 2X/day DeadLetterOffice Jul 2017 #38
Lavendar, Chamomile, Vitamin B and E lovemydogs Jul 2017 #32
sometimes it takes some tinkering to find the right dose. mopinko Jul 2017 #33
If you don't mind Control-Z Jul 2017 #35
gabapentin works for me steve2470 Jul 2017 #36
What do you think about hypnosis? TheDebbieDee Jul 2017 #37
Good suggestion! nt steve2470 Jul 2017 #39
try gui pi pian, a chinese herbal triron Sep 2017 #41

worstexever

(265 posts)
21. Recommend caution with St. John's wort
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:40 PM
May 2017

I had a friend who used it for anxiety and when she wanted to stop she couldn't without feeling suicidal. I've learned that is a common side effect.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
29. Plus, it triggered photo sensitivity in me
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 04:46 PM
Jul 2017

Got it bad on my face and arms and chest - heat rash with benefits of stinging discomfort.

Now not using anything, but wouldn't use it again.

Jane Austin

(9,199 posts)
5. I like L-theanine for focus and anxiety.
Thu May 25, 2017, 04:11 PM
May 2017

It's in a lot of sleep formulas with melatonin, but it doesn't make me sleepy.

Also, the Bach flower remedy Rock Rose is great for panic or mind racing, like when your mind races instead of letting you go to sleep at night.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
7. Sounds like you are taking the wrong medicine
Thu May 25, 2017, 04:12 PM
May 2017

You need something that stays in the system longer. Have you tried Prozac or.another SSRI?

Control-Z

(15,684 posts)
34. I was going to add magnesium to the discussion.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 06:15 PM
Jul 2017

My daughter and her father both swear by it. They buy it packaged as a product called "Calm". I think it comes in either packets or capsules. I know the magnesium is a powered substance. The only time I thought about using it all we had was the powered. I was turned off by the need to stir it into a liquid of some sort.

Frankly, it probably wouldn't work on me anyway. I'm kind of hard core when it comes to meds. Or overly sensitive. It's one extreme or the other for me. Lol.

postatomic

(1,771 posts)
9. Ask your Psychatrist
Thu May 25, 2017, 04:14 PM
May 2017

Anxiety can be a strange bird. I'm all for alternative medicines, but when you mix natural remedies with your regular meds you need to check with your doctor. All my 'people' know that I smoke a little flower from time to time.

I'd be asking myself what is happening in the afternoon to flip the anxiety trigger.

Wish I could offer some suggestions for ya'. Maybe do one of those internet search things.

Take care

WhiteTara

(30,167 posts)
10. Here's something
Thu May 25, 2017, 04:21 PM
May 2017

that you can do anytime, anywhere and I find it very effective. The simplicity is amazing. You simply breathe in and then you breathe out. Follow your breath and place your concentration about 4 inches below your naval. Breathe In Breathe Out. If you need to, say to yourself, breathing in, breathing out. Don't force your breath or anything like that. Thoughts come and go. Don't hold onto them, just see them as thoughts. Breathe In Breathe Out.

One thing that is even more wonderful is to sit and consciously do this for anywhere from 5 to 20 minutes a day. Just breathe in and breathe out. Focus on your diaphragm. As thoughts come, allow them to go. They are just wind. Breathe In, Breathe Out.

This is an anxious time.

Warpy

(113,130 posts)
11. If you're taking it at suppertime, delay it until bedtime.
Thu May 25, 2017, 04:24 PM
May 2017

If you're taking more than one pill, consider taking them in divided doses, part at night and part with breakfast. Sometimes fiddling with the time you take a medication can have a profound effect.

Physical activity helps anxiety, so if you can possibly take a walk during your lunch hour, try that. Also reconsider caffeine in the morning, if you drink it. That caffeine crash would hit in the afternoon and trigger anxiety. Non caffeinated teas can be soothing in the way that any hot drink is soothing.

Someone suggested calcium and magnesium. They can't hurt, especially if you're female.

Although I know a couple of herbs that are good anti anxiety drugs, they can be very toxic and the toxic dose is very close to the effective dose. It's why they went out of use in favor of safer and more predictable drugs.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
12. Pot, indica's especially.
Thu May 25, 2017, 04:33 PM
May 2017
https://www.leafly.com/news/strains-products/what-are-the-best-cannabis-strains-for-anxiety

Lightly dose. My story is that I had anxiety, depression and pot really heightened it if I did too much. Edibles especially, which dosage then was impossible.
I started on Zoloft which ruined my life. Horrible experience.
I went back to pot. And only ate edibles that I made and knew dosage and dropped the Zoloft, and I don't have THAT problem anymore.

CentralMass

(15,539 posts)
30. I had a rough year leading into 2016. Multiple deaths of close loved ones.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 05:01 PM
Jul 2017

A divorce and relocation of my job. I was having borh anxiety and depression issues. The state i moved to legalized and i tried a recommended strong indica with a THC concentration of around 28%. I used just a little on a Friday and sometimes Saturday night when i didnt have the work week to distract me. It helped. I was able to relax and get some sleep and did not find myself impaired the next mornimg. .i used it only briefly and started to run regularly to fend off my issues instead. I dont like to be reliant on anything.

Response to bettyellen (Reply #14)

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
19. Interesting becasue while I think a cup of tea occasionally is nice....
Thu May 25, 2017, 07:32 PM
May 2017

I'd be worried to be so into in that I'm going to a forum.
My friend actually ended up loving it she went to the island off Australia where it comes from and said there were tons of addicts. I thought that was pretty funny!

Response to bettyellen (Reply #19)

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
16. Not an herbal remedy, but...
Thu May 25, 2017, 05:42 PM
May 2017

Not an herbal remedy, but are you able to get some mild cardio exercise in the afternoon? I lived with severe depression/anxiety/ocd for over 30 years. Even 20 minutes of mild cardio helped take the edge off. Not a substitute, but an adjunct to other therapies.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
22. Thanks for the advice
Fri May 26, 2017, 06:05 PM
May 2017

I will wait until I see my doctor again. In the meantime, maybe I'll just try the chamomile tea. I thought that exercise would help, but I had a full-blown panic attack at the gym today and had to leave. It was really bad. I never thought it would happen at the gym. Usually exercise takes my mind off the fear. Since this has happened, I am going to wait until my next doctor's appointment, since the anxiety is worse than I'd thought.

But chamomile sounds non-threatening enough, and I'll try the breathing thing. I have a hard time with breathing exercises and meditation, since I am an energetic and impatient person.

Thanks again for all of the advice!

steve2470

(37,468 posts)
24. you probably know this already but....
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 04:36 PM
Jul 2017

in the interest of thoroughness, ANY kind of very mild to moderate stimulant will produce feelings of anxiety if over a certain threshold.

Caffeine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stimulant (yes yes it's wiki but a good start)

Some teas have stimulant in them, per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea


At any rate, DO NOT JUST COLD-TURKEY OFF caffeine or any other stimulant. Talk to your doctor before you do that. If you've been drinking, for example, 4 pots of coffee per day, doing cold turkey can, um, not make you feel that great. Seriously. I had a client cold turkey off that much coffee one time and she ended up in her doctor's office.

I'm not saying having a cup of coffee or tea in the morning is bad, just.... know what you're doing.

Hope this helps someone.

eta: corrected post

DK504

(3,847 posts)
28. Kava Kava is one that is amazing. It is like nature's valium and it doesn't
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 04:45 PM
Jul 2017

make you sluggish. Gaba is also very good.

emulatorloo

(45,567 posts)
31. Have your doc try a different anti-anxiety med if the one you're taking isn't working for you.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 05:27 PM
Jul 2017

A med that might work well for your neighbor may not work at all for you.

You and your doc just need to figure out which of the meds work best for >you<

Best Regards and everything is gonna work out.

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
38. You may also need a med that you take 2X/day
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 08:07 PM
Jul 2017

I take one of my antianxiety meds half in the morning and half at night, ON THE INSTRUCTIONS OF MY DOCTOR (I put this in caps because you really shouldn't do anything, including herbals, without discussing it with your prescribing doctor. And if they don't know, ask your pharmacist).

lovemydogs

(575 posts)
32. Lavendar, Chamomile, Vitamin B and E
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 05:36 PM
Jul 2017

Just about everyone in my family suffers from anxiety and depression.
Sometimes, even on meds or while searching for the right one, we need something to help keep us.
Lavendar and chaomile are known for calming properties.
I've taken B and E as well and they are great.
Another thing that really helps is yoga and doing some meditation.

mopinko

(71,817 posts)
33. sometimes it takes some tinkering to find the right dose.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 05:48 PM
Jul 2017

i agree w warpy's comment that you could split your meds into 2 doses. maybe even uneven split.
i take lyrica for pain, but i felt i was sleeping too much, so doc gave me a pill size for that i would take 2 in the morning and 1 at bedtime.

and agree w what everyone here says that you need to talk to your doc about any herbal meds you are taking. the trouble i have w a lot of these remedies is that you dont always know what is in them. i know there were a couple boner pills nailed for having generic viagra from china in them.

Control-Z

(15,684 posts)
35. If you don't mind
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 06:34 PM
Jul 2017

could you tell me which med you're taking?

I'm a wreck. Have been for years and nothing seems to work. Well, actually Clonazepam does somewhat but it's terrible to stop taking. It stays in your system forever so I'd rather not start that again.

The biggest reason I ask is because I don't sleep and it sounds like it's helping you at least get some sleep.

If you'd rather not say I will understand. I hope you find the dose or combination that works for you.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
37. What do you think about hypnosis?
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 07:42 PM
Jul 2017

I mean, I used it to stop smoking and give myself relaxation suggestions to avoid relapsing 14 years ago... I think the relaxation suggestions might work for whatever behavior you're trying to control or alter.

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