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Kath1

(4,309 posts)
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:35 PM Oct 2015

Isn't the viable woman more important than the viable fetus?

I think so, and I think any rational person should think so, also.

Abortion is a a medical procedure. It terminates an unwanted pregnancy. It has been legal in this country since 1973 with Roe v. Wade.

Get into 2015 and out of 1957, all of you pro-life (as they call themselves) idiots. This is 2015.

Don't want to rant, but a friend of mine who had an abortion (1984) called me, very upset, because some "pro-life" relative brought up her abortion at, of all things, the table at a wedding reception today! By her account, she left embarrassed, humiliated and in tears.

She has calmed down but I haven't. I think that sucks! Really pisses me off.







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Isn't the viable woman more important than the viable fetus? (Original Post) Kath1 Oct 2015 OP
In a historical sense, SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #1
Excellent, SusanCalvin! Kath1 Oct 2015 #3
And to you. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #4
She certainly should be. 3catwoman3 Oct 2015 #2
I agree. Kath1 Oct 2015 #5
what we need handmade34 Oct 2015 #6
Exactly. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #7
Thank you so much for sharing that. Kath1 Oct 2015 #8
Same here. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #9
Wonderful doctor! Kath1 Oct 2015 #10
Mine wasn't very happy with me either, SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #11
Right on. Kath1 Oct 2015 #12
Love to 5 (at least) for this OP? nt SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #13

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
1. In a historical sense,
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 09:09 PM
Oct 2015

there's no way to tell which is more "important" other than knowledge of the future. (Thinking of some conservative arguments I have seen.)

In a rational sense, it's the woman's choice. Period. Up to the completion of the birth. Period.

Yes, I'm radical on this. Who in their right mind would choose to become pregnant if there was a large chance it would put them under the control of others? I, for one, wouldn't.

Might I disapprove of others' choices? Oh yeah. Might I not have all the facts? Oh yeah. Might others' choices in this matter be considered wrong by many? Yep. Might I try to persuade people? Possibly.

Still, my body is my body. And at this point in my life I'm happy for many reasons never to have been pregnant.

Want a next generation? I see it as a choice between people willing to become pregnant and Handmaid's Tale.

3catwoman3

(25,430 posts)
2. She certainly should be.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 09:54 PM
Oct 2015

The rights of those already here should take precedence (IMO).

Your friend's relative is a heartless creep and was completely out of line.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
5. I agree.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 10:24 PM
Oct 2015

That made me so angry.

She should have told the asshole off and stood up for herself, but she is a quiet and kind person by nature and just couldn't do it.

I'm sorry, but I an really sick and tired of this kind of nonsense.

handmade34

(22,920 posts)
6. what we need
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 10:29 PM
Oct 2015

is for all of us who have had an abortion to not make excuses, or be ashamed/humiliated... anti-abortion folks have no authority over us or the issue.

I have, and will continue to, willingly talk about my 2 abortions (1 illegal, 1 legal) with anyone at anytime... I have beautiful children that I love more than life itself, I had a miscarriage and the 2 abortions... no woman at any place or time should be ashamed of being in control of her own body

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
7. Exactly.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 10:40 PM
Oct 2015

Thank you for speaking out or up or whatever the appropriate idiom is.

Thank you for vocalizing your decisions both for yourself and to help others.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
8. Thank you so much for sharing that.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 10:41 PM
Oct 2015

Thought I was pregnant at 19. Thank god I wasn't, but I made up my mind then and there that I would have an abortion.

I have an adult daughter I love. But my childbirth was my choice.

I commend you on your willingness to speak out about abortion. We need control of our own bodies.

There should be NO shame.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
9. Same here.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 10:52 PM
Oct 2015

Thought I was pregnant, and my fam doc, bless his heart, gave me the equivalent of, I now realize, an "abortion pill."

Bless him, even though a) I'm an atheist and b) The waiting room was segregated.

(Yeah, I'm that old....)

And he didn't tell my parents, either. And treated all races. Man, I wish I remembered his name. Bless him.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
10. Wonderful doctor!
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 11:07 PM
Oct 2015

My family doc gave me antibiotics to cure chlamydia when I was 17 and never told my parents. I could tell he was wasn't very happy with me, but he kept it confidential. Very nice man. I'm 57 now. Yes, I am that old!

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
12. Right on.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 11:29 PM
Oct 2015

That would have killed my parents. It was 1975. We are both lucky to have had caring doctors.

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