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uppityperson

(115,879 posts) Wed Jan 18, 2012, 09:24 PM Jan 2012

25 Kansas Lawmakers Endorse Anti-abortion Personhood Amendment

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/01/13/404415/25-kansas-lawmakers-endorse-anti-abortion-personhood-amendment/

Lawmakers in Kansas are hoping to add another anti-abortion bill to their long list of laws that aim to restrict women’s access to the procedure. Today, 25 House members endorsed a personhood amendment to the constitution that would, if passed by legislators in the 2012 session and approved by voters in November, prohibit abortions by giving legal status to a fetus and limit the availability of certain forms of birth control. Conservatives in at least 12 states are pursuing similar initiatives, even after the unexpected defeat of a personhood amendment in Mississippi.

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25 Kansas Lawmakers Endorse Anti-abortion Personhood Amendment (Original Post) uppityperson Jan 2012 OP

It's supposed to be on the November ballot in Oklahoma, too. yellerpup Jan 2012 #1

Against Personhood for Embryos Brettongarcia Jan 2012 #2

yellerpup

(12,263 posts)

1. It's supposed to be on the November ballot in Oklahoma, too.

Reply to uppityperson (Original post)

Wed Jan 18, 2012, 09:58 PM

Jan 2012

It's just another way to drain pro-choice coffers. We (taxpayers) support them while they dream up this crap and then we have to donate funds privately to fight them.

Brettongarcia

(2,262 posts)

2. Against Personhood for Embryos

Reply to uppityperson (Original post)

Mon Jan 30, 2012, 08:01 AM

Jan 2012

See my blog. With a 700-page working paper, presenting 200 rational and Biblical and Catholic arguments, that abortion should be allowed. In part, because the embryo is not a human person.

Brettongarcia, on Wordpress.

The essence of the anti-personhood argument, is that most theologian/philosophers agree, and the Science of Anthropology confirms, that the essence of being a person, the thing that makes us more than the animals, is our human intelligence, consciousness, or mind. And? An embryo hasn't got that.

The Bible itself, Ps. 139, said the embryo is not yet "formed"; science confirms its brain is not large enough, not formed enough, to have intelligence or a "rational soul," as Aquinas called it.

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