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niyad

(120,272 posts)
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:03 PM Mar 2019

Anti-choice is woman-hating. Each and every anti-choice argument has, at its heart, a profound hatre

Anti-choice is woman-hating. Each and every anti-choice argument has, at its heart, a profound
hatred for women.

each and every anti-choice argument, whether based on religion, men's rights, fetal rights, etc., says that some THING, or some ONE, whether religious beliefs, the state, the male, the z/e/f, is more important than the woman.

it really is that simple.

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Anti-choice is woman-hating. Each and every anti-choice argument has, at its heart, a profound hatre (Original Post) niyad Mar 2019 OP
Absolutely true. Ohiogal Mar 2019 #1
It's All About Keeping Women a Permanent Servant Class and Maintaining the Patriarchy dlk Mar 2019 #2
just look at the screaming when a legislator proposes controlling men's access to vasectomis, ED niyad Mar 2019 #4
"it really is that simple" handmade34 Mar 2019 #3
Bingo! Glamrock Mar 2019 #5
Yup! Hatred - and fear, too! 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2019 #6
It really is not "that simple" whathehell Mar 2019 #7
so, break it down for us where the baseline is NOT hatred for women, please. niyad Mar 2019 #8
No need, I think you're familiar with the complexities of the issue whathehell Mar 2019 #9
and the insults keep coming. nice try. niyad Mar 2019 #10
No insult intended.. whathehell Mar 2019 #13
YES! KT2000 Mar 2019 #11
as George Carlin said, "pre-born, you are golden. pre-school, you're fucked" niyad Mar 2019 #12

dlk

(12,406 posts)
2. It's All About Keeping Women a Permanent Servant Class and Maintaining the Patriarchy
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:12 PM
Mar 2019

Just think about it. Would American men ever stand for the same level of government interference into their health and reproductive choices? Too many Americans prefer to infantilize women. This is why in 2019, American women don't have equal protection under the law and over the course of decades, the ERA has not been passed by enough states to become law.

niyad

(120,272 posts)
4. just look at the screaming when a legislator proposes controlling men's access to vasectomis, ED
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:15 PM
Mar 2019

drugs, etc., in response to even more anti-choice legislation.

handmade34

(22,928 posts)
3. "it really is that simple"
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:12 PM
Mar 2019

even if the person who is anti-choice doesn't realize it or tries to make some sort of religious 'excuse'...

it really is woman-hating and/or oppression


there is no excuse for not allowing a woman to have control of her own life/body

whathehell

(29,815 posts)
7. It really is not "that simple"
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:23 PM
Mar 2019

but I recognize that some are most comfortable with binary, "black and white" thinking.

niyad

(120,272 posts)
8. so, break it down for us where the baseline is NOT hatred for women, please.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:26 PM
Mar 2019

do you really think we don't notice the sneering attack?

whathehell

(29,815 posts)
9. No need, I think you're familiar with the complexities of the issue
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:43 PM
Mar 2019

I just think that, at this point, at least, you'd rather not acknowledge and/or accept them. Have a nice one.

whathehell

(29,815 posts)
13. No insult intended..
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:59 PM
Mar 2019

There are times none of us want to deal with complexity.

That said, you seem very angry right now, and I'm really not interested in arguing.

KT2000

(20,873 posts)
11. YES!
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:56 PM
Mar 2019

The anti argument does not hold up when the same people don't think about caring for the unwanted children we already have in over-burdened, underfunded foster care programs, scattered or nonexistent healthcare for children, attempts to save children in the juvenile court and detention system.

Their high and mighty positions fall apart in the face of reality for children born into situations where they don't have the security and financial support it takes to raise a healthy child. They fantasize about the many adoptions that would be available but they think so little of the woman they don't realize she has the same response to a newborn - deep love and connection while she is awash in hormones that assure that.

It is all about bad girls having to pay for their sins. That's it - post-born - they could care less.

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