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mahina

(18,840 posts)
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 04:01 PM Nov 2023

When Louisianna learned her baby in utero could never survive, they forced to to remain in the state.

Last edited Fri Nov 24, 2023, 05:15 PM - Edit history (3)

She was then forced to continue carrying until he died.
When that happened, living in a nightmare, she had a cesarean section to deliver her deceased baby’s body. This was a much wanted pregnancy.

She is absolutely despondent.

Her family considered trying to get her out on the water in a boat, but she’s surrounded by states that have the same laws.

I don’t know if it was an injunction, or what method the state used legally, I just got off the phone with her auntie, who is beside herself.

Are the stories being told? Do people understand how women are being so grotesquely used?

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When Louisianna learned her baby in utero could never survive, they forced to to remain in the state. (Original Post) mahina Nov 2023 OP
Fundamentalist religions are torturers. AllyCat Nov 2023 #1
Cruelty Duncanpup Nov 2023 #2
Cruelty is the point. lastlib Nov 2023 #5
I know Duncanpup Nov 2023 #11
And I bet the same people will, with their very next breath, calimary Nov 2023 #21
Control aids the cruelty! keithbvadu2 Nov 2023 #3
These stories need to be on the tv news. A lot of people don't know. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2023 #4
Kick yardwork Nov 2023 #6
What if BittyJenkins Nov 2023 #7
Women are NOT PROPERTY. Not property of the state or any man Attilatheblond Nov 2023 #8
" Explain it to me like I am a five year old rape victim. " KS Toronado Nov 2023 #18
Where did you get that smilies? kimbutgar Nov 2023 #22
If my memory serves me correctly KS Toronado Nov 2023 #23
Thanks! kimbutgar Nov 2023 #24
Start here, do not wait irisblue Nov 2023 #9
So that we better know how to fight this, how old is she? And how did they force her to remain in state? pnwmom Nov 2023 #10
Republicans... GiqueCee Nov 2023 #12
They are PARTICULARLY cold-hearted toward women in need. calimary Nov 2023 #14
Why? well, we are, at the most basic level... GiqueCee Nov 2023 #20
True enough. calimary Nov 2023 #26
My Daughter P-Nutt Nov 2023 #13
Oh P-nutt. I'm thankful for that kind OB too. mahina Nov 2023 #19
How about a link or something? rwild1967 Nov 2023 #15
A link to my conversation with my friend mahina Nov 2023 #16
Please consider reply 13 above by DUer P-Nutt about her daughter's experience when Roe was still the mahina Nov 2023 #17
This from the party of keeping that government out of your lives???? CTyankee Nov 2023 #25

calimary

(83,997 posts)
21. And I bet the same people will, with their very next breath,
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 01:51 AM
Nov 2023

tell you how deeply and fervently Christian they are.

BittyJenkins

(574 posts)
7. What if
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 05:08 PM
Nov 2023

A man had to go through that kind of pain emotionally and physically.
It is so cruel on so many levels.

Attilatheblond

(4,134 posts)
8. Women are NOT PROPERTY. Not property of the state or any man
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 05:09 PM
Nov 2023

Why can a state restrict the civil right of movement around THE UNITED STATES? Explain it to me like I am a five year old rape victim.

KS Toronado

(19,390 posts)
18. " Explain it to me like I am a five year old rape victim. "
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 06:48 PM
Nov 2023

We reQublicans are God's chosen people and you will worship our every whim w/o thinking.

KS Toronado

(19,390 posts)
23. If my memory serves me correctly
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 12:04 PM
Nov 2023

BumRushDaShow had some unusual ones she shared one day last year. They're easy
to keep and use, just right click on one and select "copy image link" and save in a
word document.



(orange man)

ENJOY

pnwmom

(109,464 posts)
10. So that we better know how to fight this, how old is she? And how did they force her to remain in state?
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 05:17 PM
Nov 2023

Was the problem something that could have been solved with money, or a ride in a car, or a flight in a plane to a safe state?

I am so very sorry about what happened to your niece.

GiqueCee

(1,276 posts)
12. Republicans...
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 05:20 PM
Nov 2023

... don't give a happy rat's ass about their constituents, or the unspeakable horrors their draconian laws visit upon those with no recourse to circumvent them. EVERYTHING they say, do, feel, or think is intended to defy, defile, and destroy anything Democrats do to help those less fortunate. What kind of people embrace such a diseased and perverted view of their fellow human beings?

For many years now I have described the dichotomy thusly: A Liberal gets up in the morning and asks, who can I help today? A conservative gets up and asks, who can I punish?

calimary

(83,997 posts)
14. They are PARTICULARLY cold-hearted toward women in need.
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 06:14 PM
Nov 2023

It’s astounding and inexplicable and utterly detestable to me.

And I want to know WHY.

GiqueCee

(1,276 posts)
20. Why? well, we are, at the most basic level...
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 08:18 AM
Nov 2023

... primates. And as such, there are always some that crave dominion over the lives of others in the troop, and then there a those that want – indeed, NEED – to be told what to do and how to think. They crave being dominated by someone who panders to their inchoate fears and resentments, and validates their hatred of anything or anyone that doesn't conform to their perverted standards, or share their diseased belief system. They dress in ridiculous flag-themed costumes, paint their faces red, white, and blue, and howl like demented monkeys whenever their orange-faced Dear Leader spews one of their favorite buzz words, like "STOLEN", or "LOCK HER UP!"

Brash and brazen oligarchs are calling the tune, because their bought and paid for politicians have bulldozed the legal guardrails that might have curbed their excesses, while those who had the power to rein them in refused to believe, despite being told in so many words, that anyone could be rotten down to their DNA.

And we know how that turned out. We played by the rules, and they didn't. Now we're trying to catch up, and dodging boobytraps as we go.

Playing nice with Republicans is a losing game. As I mentioned in another post, it's knives out, or die. Lady Justice carries a sword. It's time She used it.

P-Nutt

(64 posts)
13. My Daughter
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 05:59 PM
Nov 2023

And her husband live in Missouri. About 8 years ago now, she was forced to do something similar. Her fetus actually died in utero at 29 weeks, She was forced to carry the dead fetus until week 36, when her Ob-Gyn was allowed induce force labor. The fetus looked like burned charcoal when she finally birthed it. I was 900 miles away and all I did was cry for weeks on end. I cannot even fathom the trauma to her psyche because of that ordeal. She and her husband found an Ob-Gyn who discovered a problem with her lady parts, and then explained how that could be overcome. Long story short, my Grand Daughter had her second birthday on November 15th. My heart still aches to this day over the ordeal that she was forced to endure. Thankfully for her, my ex-wife lives about 15 minutes away from her. I am so grateful that she found such a caring and competent Ob-Gyn. My daughter was 37 years old when she gave birth. I had many conversations with her after her ordeal, trying to convince her to try again. The tears that we shed together would fill a swimming pool. These forced birthers should be forced to live the heartaches that they create for others because of their misplaced cult teachings. Nothing bad enough will ever happen to one of them from my point of view. They are just plain evil.

mahina

(18,840 posts)
19. Oh P-nutt. I'm thankful for that kind OB too.
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 07:05 PM
Nov 2023

Wishing her and your family healing and utter defeat for those who did this.

mahina

(18,840 posts)
16. A link to my conversation with my friend
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 06:30 PM
Nov 2023

Whose niece I am telling you about?

There is no link to give you.

Do you think she and her family should find a broadcaster to get her face on the news? She can barely get through the day now.

If she ever does tell her story I will post it here. Please consider granting an ear to her story for now.

Are these stories being told? The women see death threats to election workers and judges and take the flying monkeys of the right into consideration in their healing, with hope. To our shame they dont feel safe. They are not safe, as their own experience proves.

mahina

(18,840 posts)
17. Please consider reply 13 above by DUer P-Nutt about her daughter's experience when Roe was still the
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 06:31 PM
Nov 2023

Last edited Fri Nov 24, 2023, 09:26 PM - Edit history (1)

Law. Its much worse now.

CTyankee

(64,814 posts)
25. This from the party of keeping that government out of your lives????
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 04:11 PM
Nov 2023

I have to bite my tongue when I hear repukes talk about that...my instinct is to attack anyone saying that with my own very acidic remarks. I HATE hypocrisy, esp. when you find out how many of them had their own "little secret" abortions themselves.

Don't get me started...

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