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Captain Zero

(7,429 posts)
Thu May 27, 2021, 07:20 PM May 2021

Explain these cousins to me, please

Moe - George 1st cousins
Abbie - Jerry 2nd cousins
Helen - Joe 3rd cousins
(no issue) - Edward 4th cousins


What are Moe and Edward to each other?

What are Abbie and Edward to each other?

What are Helen and Edward to each other?


I know it has to be a removed cousins situation but I'm clueless after that.
Thanks in advance for explaining this to me. I appreciate your time and typing...

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Explain these cousins to me, please (Original Post) Captain Zero May 2021 OP
From the mapping you've given it's not possible to tell (nt) Hugh_Lebowski May 2021 #1
needs more info Kali May 2021 #2
Jinx! (nt) Hugh_Lebowski May 2021 #3
Try applying your names to this diagram... ignoring gender which is added unnecessarily. RockRaven May 2021 #4
To calculate: Foolacious May 2021 #5
Having written out a way to calculate, I now understand what you were implying. Foolacious May 2021 #6
Yes this is correct. Irish_Dem May 2021 #8
Well, in Alabama rownesheck May 2021 #7

Foolacious

(512 posts)
5. To calculate:
Thu May 27, 2021, 09:51 PM
May 2021

Let Fred and Ethel be cousins of some degree.

Count backward the fewest number of generations to find their common ancestor. If that number is 2, they are first cousins; if 3, they are second cousins; and so on.

Now count the number of generations from that common ancestor to Fred, and the number from that common ancestor to Ethel. Then calculate the difference between those two numbers. If that difference is 0, they are simply cousins, be they first cousins, second cousins, etc. If that difference is 1, they are once removed, be they first cousins once removed, second cousins once removed, etc. If that difference is 2, they are twice removed, be they first cousins twice removed, second cousins twice removed, etc. And so on.

Example: Fred has a great-great-great-great-grandmother named Lucy, who is also Ethel's great-great-grandmother. Counting generations backward from Fred to Lucy, that's 6 generations (great[1] + great[2] + great[3] + great[4] + grand[5] + mother[6]), while counting backward from Ethel to Lucy, it's 4 generations (great[1] + great[2] + grand[3] + mother[4]). 4 is less than 6, so we use 4 generations to determine the degree of cousin, and that means third cousins. Then we look at the difference between 4 and 6 generations; the difference is 2, so the cousins are twice removed. Therefore, Fred and Ethel are third cousins twice removed to each other.

Foolacious

(512 posts)
6. Having written out a way to calculate, I now understand what you were implying.
Thu May 27, 2021, 09:55 PM
May 2021

That is, that Abbie is a child of Moe and Jerry is a child of George. And Helen is a child of Abbie, and Joe is a child of Jerry. And Edward is a child of Joe. Therefore:

Moe and Edward are 1st cousins thrice removed.
Abbie and Edward are 2nd cousins twice removed.
Helen and Edward are 3rd cousins once removed.

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