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Kali

(55,711 posts)
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 05:03 PM Jul 2023

Question for gravy makers

Pork loin roast, garlic mashed potatoes. Expecting a small amount of drippings, but I happen to have some nice pork broth in the fridge. So yeah, gravy. Question - thicken with flour or cornstarch? Generally I prefer flour in cream gravy (with fried food) but cornstarch is nice in roast beef gravy, and yet I do use flour in roast turkey gravy...so my brain is glitches. What would you use? I don't want cream gravy, just thickened pan sauce and broth.

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Question for gravy makers (Original Post) Kali Jul 2023 OP
It sounds like you've answered your own question -- so I'd use cornstarch. fierywoman Jul 2023 #1
Probably Kali Jul 2023 #4
Corn starch for me! WVGal1963 Jul 2023 #2
I can do flour Kali Jul 2023 #6
Depends if you want dweller Jul 2023 #3
I think that's what I'm not sure about Kali Jul 2023 #5
Can someone expound on the differences, in terms of when you would use each? intrepidity Jul 2023 #7
Cornstarch gives a nice glossy smooth texture Kali Jul 2023 #9
You can dissolve flour in liquid Kali Jul 2023 #11
I would go with flour. James48 Jul 2023 #8
When I use flour Kali Jul 2023 #10
I just discovered Wondra Freddie Jul 2023 #14
Wondra works for me most of the time. SharonClark Jul 2023 #16
I use cornstarch. MOMFUDSKI Jul 2023 #12
roast is in the oven and I still haven't decided Kali Jul 2023 #20
Wondra flower bottomofthehill Jul 2023 #13
I'm too far from a store to get a new product Kali Jul 2023 #21
If you can separate the fat from the other liquids chowmama Jul 2023 #15
I do love a simple pan sauce but want quantity this time Kali Jul 2023 #19
In this case I'd use arrowroot Major Nikon Jul 2023 #17
of course you would! Kali Jul 2023 #18
I too would recommend arrowroot. My stirfries love it as well. cachukis Jul 2023 #22
Also arrowroot doesn't tend to form lumps as much northoftheborder Jul 2023 #27
Flour gravies hold up to reheating, cornstarch not so much Warpy Jul 2023 #23
I think I decided Kali Jul 2023 #24
Make a roux Retrograde Jul 2023 #25
that is what I did finally. had some good pork fat so that decided it. Kali Jul 2023 #26

WVGal1963

(183 posts)
2. Corn starch for me!
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 05:09 PM
Jul 2023

I always fight with flour. But corn starch is a staple in my kitchen for thickening. Flour kind of intimidates me. And I’m a FOODIE!!! Haaa!

dweller

(24,939 posts)
3. Depends if you want
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 05:10 PM
Jul 2023

Opaque gravy with flour, or more clear sauce with cornstarch slurry

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intrepidity

(7,877 posts)
7. Can someone expound on the differences, in terms of when you would use each?
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 05:15 PM
Jul 2023

When making Asian sauces, I tend to use cornstarch; for turkey, chicken, beef or pork, I'd probably use flour but I don't know why.

So, why?

ETA: maybe it has to do with fat content? You need fat when using flour, but not cornstarch, right?

Kali

(55,711 posts)
9. Cornstarch gives a nice glossy smooth texture
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 05:20 PM
Jul 2023

Flour seems to be a little more rich and creamier I think. Why I like it for dairy based things. You can also cook it in the fat longer and change the flavor and color that way. Corn starch is always dissolved in liquid and is much more neutral

Kali

(55,711 posts)
11. You can dissolve flour in liquid
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 05:24 PM
Jul 2023

Wine, or whatever so it doesn't have to have fat. It isn't as easy as cornstarch but it works.

Freddie

(9,686 posts)
14. I just discovered Wondra
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 06:02 PM
Jul 2023

2 tbs Wondra stirred into 1/4 cup cold water & added to 1 cup hot broth or drippings.

 

MOMFUDSKI

(7,080 posts)
12. I use cornstarch.
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 05:26 PM
Jul 2023

Just made chicken fricasee recently and it called for a roux. Did that. Added cream at the end. My nice, thick sauce lost its thickness! Must be a science thingy. I will go back to my cornstarch. I do use Wondra Flour for my sausage gravy. Do the roux thing after the sausage is cooked and then add milk. Works well

chowmama

(503 posts)
15. If you can separate the fat from the other liquids
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 06:08 PM
Jul 2023

I'd use the fat and flour to make a roux, then add it to the liquid ingredients. Use a little pork broth first, to scrape up all the good bits into the rest of the liquid, then whisk the roux (made separately) into the liquid and add more pork broth as needed for volume and texture.

Otherwise, I'd scrape up the drippings with some broth (or white wine), use some broth for a cornstarch slurry, and go from there.

Or if you're ok with less gravy and more of a highly flavored drizzle, just deglaze with less broth (and maybe a little wine) and boil it down a bit.

The only thing I'd personally avoid is a flour slurry with milk. It was my mom's preferred gravy, but it was pretty bland. She probably used it because it she could just add milk and slurry until she had enough gravy for six. It was tan, hot, thick milk. Also, the metal lidded container that was designed to shake the milk and flour in always sprayed whoever (often me) was assigned to shake it up. I think both the gravy and the shaker were right out of my mom's Depression childhood.

Kali

(55,711 posts)
19. I do love a simple pan sauce but want quantity this time
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 08:37 PM
Jul 2023

roux for milk gravy - preferably made with bacon grease and the pan bits from frying the meat!

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)
17. In this case I'd use arrowroot
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 06:33 PM
Jul 2023

Both flour and cornstarch will leave a taste component and cloud the sauce. Arrowroot is tasteless and won't cloud the end result. So if all you're wanting to do is thicken up a pan sauce into a glaze while leaving it otherwise unchanged, arrowroot is the best option. You can use it in the same way you'd use cornstarch which is to mix it with a small amount of cold water before adding it to prevent clumping. Similar to cornstarch it has about twice the thickening power of flour by weight and unlike flour or cornstarch is not affected by acidity. Arrowroot also has the advantage of reaching its full thickening power at lower temperatures than flour or cornstarch. It's best to add it at the end and remove the heat when the sauce is as thick as you want as overheating can reduce it's thickening power. Since discovering arrowroot I just don't have much use for cornstarch anymore.

Kali

(55,711 posts)
18. of course you would!
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 08:35 PM
Jul 2023

I knew somebody would probably mention it but didn't add the disclaimer that my only two choices were flour and cornstarch. and I am 20 (and 100 degree temps) miles from a store.

I may get some to try in the future, though. thanks

northoftheborder

(7,606 posts)
27. Also arrowroot doesn't tend to form lumps as much
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 03:14 PM
Jul 2023

I use it when the flour gravy or sauce is too thin - so can just sprinkle in a little arrowroot at the end when needed

Warpy

(113,130 posts)
23. Flour gravies hold up to reheating, cornstarch not so much
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 09:12 PM
Jul 2023

Flour gravies are opaque, cornstarch transparent or translucent, depending on the liquid.

Go for whichever qualities you're looking for. There are no gravy police as long as you cook it long enough that it doesn't taste like wallpaper paste.

Retrograde

(10,626 posts)
25. Make a roux
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 11:04 PM
Jul 2023

equal parts by volume flour and fat - augment the drippings with butter if you need to- then add the pork broth to get the consistency you want. IMHO the flour-based gravy is more traditional with what you describe.

I tend to use cornstarch for Chinese-style dishes, when I don't want extra flavors, and it's not really a gravy, more of a thick sauce.

Kali

(55,711 posts)
26. that is what I did finally. had some good pork fat so that decided it.
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 12:11 AM
Jul 2023

cornstarch for Asian style too

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