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hamsterjill

(15,522 posts)
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 01:37 PM Sep 2017

Help!!!! Smoke alarm chirp driving my neighbor nuts!!!!

Okay, here's the synopsis:

A hard wired, probably 30-year old smoke alarm started chirping. We got the alarm removed from the ceiling. There is no battery back up on the alarm itself. But SOMETHING is still chirping in the ceiling where the alarm was.

Let me repeat: this is NOT about removing a battery backup from the alarm, itself, because the alarm has been removed from the house but the chirping continues in the ceiling. No CO 2 detector in the house as this is an all electric house.

Help!!! Can't get an electrician as it's the weekend. Yes, we've turned off all of the circuit breaker switches in the box in the garage one at a time and that did not stop the chirping.

Poltergeist????????

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Help!!!! Smoke alarm chirp driving my neighbor nuts!!!! (Original Post) hamsterjill Sep 2017 OP
Maybe a battery smoke detector got tucked up there... Beartracks Sep 2017 #1
I find that playing Insane Clown Posse loud enough can eliminate the problem of the smoke alarm Not Ruth Sep 2017 #2
We may try that!!!! hamsterjill Sep 2017 #11
If you've physically removed all the parts of the alarm VMA131Marine Sep 2017 #3
It's very hard to be sure of the direction those chirps are coming from ... eppur_se_muova Sep 2017 #4
I agree but we are certain where chirp is coming from. hamsterjill Sep 2017 #12
Exactly. I looked for 4 months once for the chirp. It sounded like it was coming from all over the Hoyt Sep 2017 #17
Are you sure that's where the sound is coming from? Orrex Sep 2017 #5
Agree that you may be incorrect as to where the sound is coming from Happyhippychick Sep 2017 #6
CRICKET! elleng Sep 2017 #7
Of COURSE! csziggy Jan 2020 #21
Do you have mutiple smoke detectors in your residence CentralMass Sep 2017 #8
Codes meant nothing to the builder of this house. hamsterjill Sep 2017 #10
The chirpy is coming from that location. hamsterjill Sep 2017 #9
If it's a battery backup for a hardwired device, then it's chirping because the battery is low Orrex Sep 2017 #18
Is there anything called a "capacitor" that might relate to this? hamsterjill Sep 2017 #13
We had something similar happen not too long ago and my husband had to finally get up and OregonBlue Sep 2017 #14
Thank you!!! hamsterjill Sep 2017 #15
Do you have an attached garage? Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #16
Garage is attached and we think the smoke alarm is somehow connected to hamsterjill Sep 2017 #19
I know this is an old post shanti May 2019 #20

Beartracks

(13,617 posts)
1. Maybe a battery smoke detector got tucked up there...
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 01:40 PM
Sep 2017

... out of the way, when the wired ones were installed?

But then that would be one heck of a battery.

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Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
2. I find that playing Insane Clown Posse loud enough can eliminate the problem of the smoke alarm
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 01:41 PM
Sep 2017

VMA131Marine

(4,678 posts)
3. If you've physically removed all the parts of the alarm
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 01:41 PM
Sep 2017

Then it suggests that there is another alarm up there that has a low battery.

eppur_se_muova

(37,609 posts)
4. It's very hard to be sure of the direction those chirps are coming from ...
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 01:44 PM
Sep 2017

the sound is so short, intense, and bounces around so much that it can be very hard to locate the actual source of the sound. Look around to be sure there's not another detector hidden in an inobvious spot.

Otherwise, I'd look into the attic. Maybe there's one up there.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
17. Exactly. I looked for 4 months once for the chirp. It sounded like it was coming from all over the
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 04:37 PM
Sep 2017

house. Finally, found the fire detector I had stuck in a kitchen cabinet for some reason. I tried everything to pinpoint where it was coming from, but could not.

Orrex

(64,258 posts)
5. Are you sure that's where the sound is coming from?
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 01:46 PM
Sep 2017

I ask because I deal with this in tech support all the time, with a customer cursing me out for twenty minutes because I won't help them with the sound that is unmistakably coming from their alarm, until they power down the alarm and realize it was a battery backup for something else.

The sound is often a quick, high-pitched chirp difficult to localize, so if one concludes early on that it's coming from a certain device, then it can be hard to hear where it's really coming from afterward.

What kind of ceiling is it? Is this an apartment? What's upstairs?

CentralMass

(15,581 posts)
8. Do you have mutiple smoke detectors in your residence
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 02:01 PM
Sep 2017

On a side note, new electrical codes typically require that all line powered smoke detectors in a residence "daisy-chained" together so that if one goes off, they all go off.

However, it is likely another smoke detector in the house that does need a battery replacemeny. It is hard to tell where those chirps are coming from. I would check them all and replace the batteries in all thst have them

hamsterjill

(15,522 posts)
10. Codes meant nothing to the builder of this house.
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 02:07 PM
Sep 2017

House was constructed in 1984 by single family builder who was the largest in the city at that time. Most city inspectors were incentivized to look the other way. I know....used to work for the builder.

hamsterjill

(15,522 posts)
9. The chirpy is coming from that location.
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 02:05 PM
Sep 2017

I agree that the chirping can be misleading but we have made SURE it is coming from that area. Only one other hard wired detector in the home and it is way across the house and NOT chirping.

We are two old and fat ladies and cannot access attic. But still why is this thing, if wired, not stopping when breakers are turned off?

Orrex

(64,258 posts)
18. If it's a battery backup for a hardwired device, then it's chirping because the battery is low
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 06:37 AM
Sep 2017

Not because the breaker is or isn't tripped.

If indeed a smoke detector is at issue, then the chirp may go one of two ways if left unaddressed: it will either stop chirping once the battery is completely dead, or it will continue to keep chirping indefinitely because it's drawing on AC power from the building.

Do you have a centralized alarm panel to go along with the smoke detectors? You might, or you might not. If you do, then it should tell you which device is at issue; if it indicates no problem, then at least you know that it's not the system's smoke detector but rather some additional, independent device.

hamsterjill

(15,522 posts)
13. Is there anything called a "capacitor" that might relate to this?
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 02:10 PM
Sep 2017

Been googling but not knowledgeable enough to understand.

OregonBlue

(7,941 posts)
14. We had something similar happen not too long ago and my husband had to finally get up and
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 02:15 PM
Sep 2017

separate the wires that led into the alarm about 6" back from where they came out of the wall (pulled the bundle out further into the room, unwrapped and separated them) and put the plastic screw on caps on each wire. It stopped. Have no idea what is going on. Good luck.

hamsterjill

(15,522 posts)
19. Garage is attached and we think the smoke alarm is somehow connected to
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 11:37 AM
Sep 2017

An old, no longer used security system. We are idiots and we can't find the source for what we think is powering the chirp. We can't get into the attic. Too old and fat.

Electrician coming Tuesday. Darndest damn thing.

This house was a rental for many years and there was actually some high-end drug dealers living there for a time. This was over 20 years ago. They had cameras everywhere for security. Prob have something wired up in the attic that just now decided to make noise.

I say high-end drug dealers because the FBI raided them one night. Not local PD.

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