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Siwsan

(27,285 posts)
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 04:56 PM Sep 2019

Any recommendations for 'discreet' wifi front door security cameras?

I'm looking at 'Blink' and 'Ring'. I don't necessarily want a doorbell camera - just something with a motion detector alert that will show the area around the front door.

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Any recommendations for 'discreet' wifi front door security cameras? (Original Post) Siwsan Sep 2019 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #1
get a trail camera? mopinko Sep 2019 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #4
I've been thinking about one of those for my back yard. Siwsan Sep 2019 #11
i have a little weather station that i have sadly never installed. mopinko Sep 2019 #12
Interesting idea...I've been looking at Ring etc. products, haven't decided yet, and this is an ... SWBTATTReg Sep 2019 #27
I don't understand the "discreet" camera at140 Sep 2019 #3
It's not about discouragement. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2019 #7
I doubt if police will spend man hours looking for a at140 Sep 2019 #23
Yep. Just had this conversation with a neighbor Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 #44
I read a recommendation they should be installed at about 2nd story height Siwsan Sep 2019 #9
If someone is at your door past mid-nite at140 Sep 2019 #24
I'm looking into a motion detecting security light for my back yard Siwsan Sep 2019 #25
You don't need to "install" a motion detector system for backyard if... at140 Sep 2019 #28
I'll have to look into that! Siwsan Sep 2019 #31
I have 3 of those radar bulbs on outside porches at140 Sep 2019 #35
Yikes! Best wishes to you and hope that you remain secure and safe! NT SWBTATTReg Sep 2019 #29
Thanks Siwsan Sep 2019 #32
I have two Blink cameras. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2019 #5
Did you have your Blink recording 24/7? GentryDixon Sep 2019 #20
No, I keep it set to motion trigger. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2019 #36
Thanks! GentryDixon Sep 2019 #38
In our area, Ring works with police and helps catch crooks. Liberty Belle Sep 2019 #6
You can do the same with Blink. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2019 #8
My niece said they use Blink Siwsan Sep 2019 #10
If they tinker it, you'll have video of it. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2019 #16
I hadn't thought of that! Siwsan Sep 2019 #17
That's where I put mine. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2019 #19
I'm thinking I may have my decision. Siwsan Sep 2019 #21
This one looks effective... hlthe2b Sep 2019 #13
That would definitely be a deterrent!! Siwsan Sep 2019 #14
Apparently not so uncommon... This one was near me in Denver area... hlthe2b Sep 2019 #15
I have a Nest door bell / camera and love it PuppyBismark Sep 2019 #18
That's the other one I was trying to remember. Siwsan Sep 2019 #22
Find a ton of good ideas. safeinOhio Sep 2019 #26
My house is pretty well buttoned up Siwsan Sep 2019 #30
A camera should be obvious, it acts as a deterrent Miguelito Loveless Sep 2019 #33
I think my 'worry' was someone disabling it. Of course that image would be captured, so....... Siwsan Sep 2019 #34
The Blink has a motion sensor Miguelito Loveless Sep 2019 #37
I have a note on my door warning off salesmen, religious proselytizer and republican candidates Siwsan Sep 2019 #39
The funniest one was a motion detector attached to a sprinkler system mitch96 Sep 2019 #40
I could use something like that in my veg garden! Siwsan Sep 2019 #41
? motion detector connected to a electronic On/Off water valve.. ?? nt mitch96 Sep 2019 #42
My nephew is pretty clever. I might set this as a project for him. Siwsan Sep 2019 #43
Door alarm Ovens1986 Sep 2019 #45

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Siwsan

(27,285 posts)
11. I've been thinking about one of those for my back yard.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:12 PM
Sep 2019

Install it on my garden barn, overlooking the back of the house.

mopinko

(71,798 posts)
12. i have a little weather station that i have sadly never installed.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:19 PM
Sep 2019

has a little webcam.
got it for xmas, so dont know how much it cost.

SWBTATTReg

(24,085 posts)
27. Interesting idea...I've been looking at Ring etc. products, haven't decided yet, and this is an ...
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 07:03 PM
Sep 2019

idea too. Thanks for suggesting!

at140

(6,131 posts)
3. I don't understand the "discreet" camera
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:01 PM
Sep 2019

because the burglar will not even realize she is being recorded on camera.
Instead get a motion detector activated sound of a big dog barking.
Barking dogs are what discourages burglars. She will not know if it is a real dog,
but will not take a chance confronting a large dog.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
7. It's not about discouragement.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:07 PM
Sep 2019

It’s evidence. A barking dog inside the house won’t stop porch pirates.

at140

(6,131 posts)
23. I doubt if police will spend man hours looking for a
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 06:05 PM
Sep 2019

porch pirates. There are enough serious crimes out there (murder, rape, armed robbery) to keep them busy. So unless YOU recognize the burglar, it is pretty much useless evidence.

Siwsan

(27,285 posts)
9. I read a recommendation they should be installed at about 2nd story height
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:09 PM
Sep 2019

I live in a single story ranch house. And it seems that a doorbell camera would be very easily foiled. Yea, if it went dark, I wouldn't be going to the door, but I'd rather just have a camera, maybe above the door.

And I definitely don't want some loud barking noise suddenly jarring my already frazzled nerves, every time someone comes to the door.

at140

(6,131 posts)
24. If someone is at your door past mid-nite
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 06:13 PM
Sep 2019

you should be glad to hear a barking dog and be jarred out of slumber.

Besides the most common burglar entry is from a 1st story window. Not too many break down the front door. And if you have a sliding glass door in the back of house, that can easily be jimmied open with a cheap pry bar. Install a metal rod at mid level height for added security.

And every ground floor window should have a magnetic alarm. Those are not expensive.
From my reading, a lighted house is a good defense. Install motion activated light bulbs around the house. Those are not expensive either.

Siwsan

(27,285 posts)
25. I'm looking into a motion detecting security light for my back yard
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 06:44 PM
Sep 2019

And I do have iron bars in the tracks of the sliding windows and door, and security flip locks on the entry doors and even the basement door. The new windows I had installed all of little security flip bars that only allow the windows to be open about 2 inches.

My whole security search was triggered by the return of my 'quasi-stalker'. I've told her, up front and in no uncertain terms, and for many, MANY legitimate reasons, to leave me alone and to stop pestering my family to intervene but every few years she starts up, again. Before I moved and changed my phone number, she'd watch my coming and going, send me drippy letters and call, crying that she misses me. I don't think she's dangerous or a threat to anything other than my mental health but any contact will just start the whole thing over, again.

This individual has now enlisted her son in her quest to get back in touch. I've had to block him and his sister on Facebook. He has a history of what we will call bad behavior, in his younger days. He might, now, be a stellar citizen but I watch far too much Discovery ID TV shows and know situations like this can take a bad, unexpected turn.

Hope you forgive my 'over sharing'!


at140

(6,131 posts)
28. You don't need to "install" a motion detector system for backyard if...
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 07:04 PM
Sep 2019

you already have a porch light. Most homes have an outside light and an inside porch light.

For less than $3, you can buy a radar operated light bulb which simply screws into existing socket. Buy a pack of 3 or 4 ($12) of those on eBay or Amazon or Home Depot web sites and screw them in every outside existing light socket. They work great. I even have those in my hallway so when I get up at night to pee or get a drink of water, it lights up automatically. These light bulbs shut themselves off during daylight.

What is good about radar based motion detector bulbs is they do not need direct line of sight.
For example my hallway light bulb can not be seen from my bedroom door. But as soon as I walk out of the bedroom door, at night, the bulb lights up. Then after a short time it automatically shuts off. Until it detects more motion from me or anyone else.

If interested, do a search on eBay using "radar motion detector bulb".

at140

(6,131 posts)
35. I have 3 of those radar bulbs on outside porches
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 07:53 PM
Sep 2019

If there is no motion, they stay off saving me electricity.
They are extremely sensitive to motion during dark and range is very good.
And during the day they stay off automatically, so I just leave the switch on all the time.
I think these radar based bulbs are relatively new on the market.
And best part for you is you won't have to buy a gadget and "install" it.
Because these are simply replacement bulbs for your existing bulbs.

Siwsan

(27,285 posts)
32. Thanks
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 07:11 PM
Sep 2019

I've been living with this situation hanging over my head for years, now. Things quiet down for long stretches, and then I get contacted, again. I've run out of ways to say 'leave me alone' so if I get a 'home visit', I'll give one trespass warning and then take legal measures.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
5. I have two Blink cameras.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:05 PM
Sep 2019

Plan on adding more as I go. They work quite well. My first one is 2 years old and the original batteries finally died last month. Motion sensor works good. Notifications to the phone is nice, and the new XT2 model has talkback capabilities. Super easy to install and setup, as well.

GentryDixon

(3,010 posts)
20. Did you have your Blink recording 24/7?
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:49 PM
Sep 2019

I have the newer model with sound, but I wasn't sure about the battery truly lasting 2 years like they claimed, so I have them coming on at 9pm & going off at 3am (I am up at that time).

Liberty Belle

(9,610 posts)
6. In our area, Ring works with police and helps catch crooks.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:06 PM
Sep 2019

I don't yet have a system, but a lot of our neighbors do. They can send footage to police if it shows a crime or something suspicious.

Package thieves and mail thieves have been caught this way. It could also provide leads for investigating burglaries in a neighborhood. On the NextDoor forum online, neighbors also warn others if there is someone suspicious, such as people who appear to be casing a house.

You can set it up to view remotely, too, as I recall, so if you are at work and see someone messing with your home you can notify the cops.

Siwsan

(27,285 posts)
10. My niece said they use Blink
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:11 PM
Sep 2019

That's kind of where I'm leaning but thought I'd see if there are other options, too. I just want something small that isn't obvious or as easy to tinker with as, to my mind, a doorbell assembly would be.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
16. If they tinker it, you'll have video of it.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:28 PM
Sep 2019

My wife mentioned that when I mounted it. Scared someone would steal it. I said we’d at least have video of the crime as it would be recording to the cloud during the theft.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
19. That's where I put mine.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:41 PM
Sep 2019

One above the front door, one above the garage door.

In a few months I’m gonna add a third one to the back porch to cover my two sliding glass doors.

Siwsan

(27,285 posts)
21. I'm thinking I may have my decision.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:54 PM
Sep 2019

My niece said one of their friends has one installed on their roadside mailbox that covers their front yard and front of their house.

hlthe2b

(106,333 posts)
15. Apparently not so uncommon... This one was near me in Denver area...
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:27 PM
Sep 2019

I think it is a bullsnake (nonvenomous) but I can't be sure. Apparently, those cameras produce enough heat to attract. watch all the way to the end.

PuppyBismark

(607 posts)
18. I have a Nest door bell / camera and love it
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:39 PM
Sep 2019

My nest doorbell/camera recognizes people as well as packages being left or picked up. It also allows me to talk to the person at the door as well as just listen. All is recorded and retrievable.

Siwsan

(27,285 posts)
30. My house is pretty well buttoned up
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 07:08 PM
Sep 2019

About the only way to gain access, at night, would be shattering a window.

My concern is seeing who is at the front door, before they see me. I have a bit of a what I think of as a 'quasi-stalker' situation that has just flared up, again. I was living pretty incognito, but I re-filed the quit claim deed on this house, taking off my aunt, mother and sister (all deceased) and putting my name as the primary owner.

This person isn't dangerous. Just emotionally unstable and incredibly and persistently intrusive, delusional and annoying. And any contact will just make things even more stressful.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,666 posts)
33. A camera should be obvious, it acts as a deterrent
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 07:22 PM
Sep 2019

I have been using Blink cameras for several years now and they have worked fine.

Siwsan

(27,285 posts)
34. I think my 'worry' was someone disabling it. Of course that image would be captured, so.......
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 07:28 PM
Sep 2019

People who know me well understand that I have been a prolific worrier. I'm getting better, but still have the occasional relapse.

I am 99.999% sure I'm going to buy a Blink and then we will just put it where it gives me the best viewing area.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,666 posts)
37. The Blink has a motion sensor
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 10:12 PM
Sep 2019

So, anyone trying to disable it will set it to record. You would then get a text telling you it had tripped and you could then view the video clip. I have been using it about 3 years now, and all I have ever seen are sundry wildlife, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons, meter readers, and amusingly, people trying to sell me home security systems.

I also use Samsung’s Smartthings hub, which control lights, motion sensors, locks and door sensors. All tied to my family’s phones. Doors lock when we leave, unlock when we arrive.

Siwsan

(27,285 posts)
39. I have a note on my door warning off salesmen, religious proselytizer and republican candidates
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 05:59 AM
Sep 2019

but any Democratic candidate is welcome. It might be fun to capture the looks on their faces, when they read the note. My state rep took a photo of it.

mitch96

(14,651 posts)
40. The funniest one was a motion detector attached to a sprinkler system
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 09:15 AM
Sep 2019

Only activated after sunset... I think it was someone that lived next to a popular bar. Kids would use his ally to pee.. He also hooked up a motion activated camera to watch the fun!1
I would put up a big dummy (ie cheap)camera and a door bell camera would deter the perp.. They see the dummy, disable it.. all the while the door bell camera takes their pic....YMMV.
m

Siwsan

(27,285 posts)
41. I could use something like that in my veg garden!
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 09:18 AM
Sep 2019

It is fenced in, but sometimes munching critters get past the defense line.

Siwsan

(27,285 posts)
43. My nephew is pretty clever. I might set this as a project for him.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 09:35 AM
Sep 2019

I was lucky, this year. Nothing but tomato worms gave me grief. Last year I was dealing with a ground hog and a rabbit. Fortunately I finally was able to find and reinforce the weak spots in the fence line.

Actually, for the first time since I started gardening, here, I didn't see a single ground hog, this year. I checked with my neighbors, and they didn't see any, either. I'm wondering if the torrential spring rains flooded the burrows at birthing time.

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