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OAITW r.2.0

(28,392 posts)
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 09:54 PM Dec 2023

I want to buy a standing drill press.

I worked at a Company in the 70's that manufactured the Leland Gifford Drill Press. Industrial workhorse.

But I do not need an LG production multiplindle drill press. I need a sturdy 1 head press with enought HP to bore a bunch of 1-3/4" holes of PT pine, about 1000 holes total. Any recs?

Making a new railing system for my 360 deck.

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I want to buy a standing drill press. (Original Post) OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 OP
Had a Delta belt drive bench top for years cachukis Dec 2023 #1
I think that is where I will end up. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 #2
Any averages price drill press will do Alpeduez21 Dec 2023 #3
I ain't boring a thousand 1-3/4" holes through PT with a drill. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 #5
Just curious dweller Dec 2023 #4
2 x 4 PT x 8' (box between uprights)....need them pretty stable - twist and bend-wise. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 #6
Got it dweller Dec 2023 #7
Have to paint the deck, too. About 1000 sf. PT, not painted since 2000 when built. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 #8
Ok , I know I overthink things dweller Dec 2023 #9
Good point. marbe a 1/4" hole on the bottom rail. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 #10
1.75" dia. x .375" deep? House of Roberts Dec 2023 #11
Titanium coated bits.... OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 #12
So regular 118 degree (or 135 degree) drill bit? With TiN coating, that's gonna be pricey, House of Roberts Dec 2023 #13
I'll mark the holes in parallel OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 #14
Not a drill bit, a Forstner bit. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 #19
Oh, I really like this idea! OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 #20
Be damn careful with PT lumber. usonian Dec 2023 #15
Of course it is. Do not eat it. But It lasts for decades. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 #16
I meant the dust. usonian Dec 2023 #17
Gotcha....always were a mask and goggles when I cut/grind wood. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 #18
Look for drill presses on Craigslist. You might find a good one for cheap. Hotler Jan 2024 #21
I can tell you what I did when I needed one jmowreader Feb 2024 #22

cachukis

(2,672 posts)
1. Had a Delta belt drive bench top for years
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 10:17 PM
Dec 2023

that held up well. I go to Harbor Freight when I can't find what I want at a pawnshop.

Alpeduez21

(1,861 posts)
3. Any averages price drill press will do
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 10:24 PM
Dec 2023

Your concern should be the drill bit and keeping it sharp. A hand drill can work and there are plenty of tutorials to make a jig for drilling straight.

OAITW r.2.0

(28,392 posts)
5. I ain't boring a thousand 1-3/4" holes through PT with a drill.
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 10:35 PM
Dec 2023

Ain't happening. Try it sometime and see what you think about that.

No, I need accuracy between top and bottom rail, loaction wise (+/- .031&quot estimate I need 504 aluminum bronze tubes for my project. My 20 year old cedar rails are disintegrating, so that's the big profect in 2025...

dweller

(25,052 posts)
4. Just curious
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 10:28 PM
Dec 2023

How thick PT Pine ?
1x ?
2x ?

Trying to picture your railing 🤔
That’s a pretty large hole


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OAITW r.2.0

(28,392 posts)
6. 2 x 4 PT x 8' (box between uprights)....need them pretty stable - twist and bend-wise.
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 10:42 PM
Dec 2023

Boring 1-3/4" OD x 3/8"D holes top and bottom to locate aluminum tubes - 1-5/8 OD tubes x 36" Bronze anodize. I rep the Indian manufacturer stateside, so I should get a pretty fair price.

dweller

(25,052 posts)
9. Ok , I know I overthink things
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 11:12 PM
Dec 2023

But I was picturing your project and wondered about water collecting in bottom oversized hole … maybe want to add a few weep holes to bottom rail holes ?

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OAITW r.2.0

(28,392 posts)
10. Good point. marbe a 1/4" hole on the bottom rail.
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 11:18 PM
Dec 2023

Not this year, but I see a lot of snow on this deack....and the faster it goes, the better for the deck. Good advice!

House of Roberts

(5,686 posts)
11. 1.75" dia. x .375" deep?
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 11:27 PM
Dec 2023

Are you using a Forstner bit that big to get flat bottoms in your holes? That will take some HP to twist a chip out after it starts losing it's edge. Might need frequent sharpenings, at least using a hone to keep the edge keen.

OAITW r.2.0

(28,392 posts)
12. Titanium coated bits....
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 11:35 PM
Dec 2023

Been a thing for 45 years. I think +/- .385 ought to float the tubes, but keep them secure. It a few tubes are too long, may they indent the lumber a bit. Depnds on the 2x 4's....

House of Roberts

(5,686 posts)
13. So regular 118 degree (or 135 degree) drill bit? With TiN coating, that's gonna be pricey,
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 12:04 AM
Dec 2023

but so is anything 1.75" diameter.
I'm trying to think of an alternative tool that could work, like a hole saw with the right diameter for the tubing to seat into the 2x4, but it might need to cut a thicker groove than the standard hole saw to work.

I could see using one 2x4 with holes through as a template to spot your locations on each regular 2x4, then you wouldn't have to lay them out individually. You'd still have a lot of holes to drill, but it could be repeatable and make your top and bottom sections more likely to match up. You'd need your depth of cut to be consistent, but that's why you'd use a drill press and not a hand drill.

I hope you can work out the kinks in your process to make it efficient. And find a reasonable priced drill press.

OAITW r.2.0

(28,392 posts)
19. Not a drill bit, a Forstner bit.
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 06:50 PM
Dec 2023

That's the plan. I think I need a drill stand to do bore the wholes in a relatively quick fashion.

OAITW r.2.0

(28,392 posts)
20. Oh, I really like this idea!
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 06:55 PM
Dec 2023

"I could see using one 2x4 with holes through as a template to spot your locations on each regular 2x4,"

Absolutely, will need to overbore - m aybe a 1-7/8 bit to bore through....but this makes total sense and avoids having to do mark drill pints for every spindle on every each 2x4x8.

Great tip!

Hotler

(12,168 posts)
21. Look for drill presses on Craigslist. You might find a good one for cheap.
Wed Jan 3, 2024, 11:15 AM
Jan 2024

Tool feeds and speeds for a given material are important. Here's a chart for wood.
https://www.woodmagazine.com/woodworking-tips/techniques/drilling-boring/drill-press-speed-chart
Click the link to the PDF.

jmowreader

(51,456 posts)
22. I can tell you what I did when I needed one
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 12:23 AM
Feb 2024

I needed to drill a shitload of holes into porcelain tile so...first thing I did was to buy a Harbor Freight floor-standing press. It lasted one night and twenty holes. When I got up in the morning to drill some more holes I tried turning it on and...it wouldn't go on. I pulled off the switch and ohmed it out, and the switch itself was broken. I made some jumpers to connect the two wires coming off the switch, turned it on and it ran fine. I first thought to myself, "I can go to Home Depot, buy a switch and an electrical box, and install a new switch on this thing that'll work fine." Then I thought to myself, "exactly why are you planning to field-modify a tool that's less than 24 hours old?" It went back to Harbor Freight.

What I wound up with is a Grizzly Industrial "Shop Fox" brand oscillating bench-mount 3/4-horse drill press. I made a neat little stand with wheels for it. Works great and is plenty (ful)filling. The "oscillating" thing is for sanding - they give you a little kit with it that contains three rubber drums in different sizes, plus a few sanding sleeves, and it becomes a pretty decent edge sander. The only issue I have with the sanding kit is, for some reason, the drums don't fit the sanding sleeves Grizzly sells. Maybe I got a bad set. I don't think I'd get the oscillating model anymore; I paid under $400 for it in 2020 and it's nearly $700 now. The thing I like best about Grizzly drill presses is that there's a screw in the chuck shaft that lets you attach it to the quill a lot more securely than just jamming a Jacobs taper into its hole. They also give you a chuck key with a spring-loaded pin in it to force the key out of the chuck after you've finished tightening a drill bit, which keeps you from turning the DP on with the key still in the chuck. I bought mine from the Grizzly store in Bellingham, WA, but they will ship.

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