I have family there who garden that do not have to use anything to make the soil richer.


I live, and garden, in Az. Haha. You should see my muscles from carrying bags of soil and nutrients!

Everyone should have a garden. They are the best.

We don't find the taste of veggies here nearly as good as what we grew or bought in Michigan. I've found some of the sizes to be much smaller as well. Rutabagas back home are quite big, here I may have to buy 3 or 4 to get equal of one there.

funny that my yard has shitty soil, but my little farm- 35' away, has pretty good soil. but i am very close to the lake, and mostly here it just dirty sand. i was raised out in the burbs, tho, and everything grew like mad.

silty clay loam. It's not great, but it's okay. I live near Crystal Lake. I do have to amend the hell out of it to get it to perform like the soil where I grew up....Lombard. That stuff was black prairie gold!

prairie. i used to joke that i could stick a popsicle stick in that dirt and it would grow a popsicle bush.

Many of the soldiers during the Black Hawk war were impressed by the black soil and migrated to the area.

Chicago. Named after Miami Indian name for the wild garlic found in the area.

to edge of Texas Hill Country. Very shallow soil with limestone everywhere and caliche underbase. The area is quite beautiful but hard to grow crops on. Keep trying to make planting beds but that is expensive to do. Really miss midwest soils which were so easy to plant in and get a decent return.

We could make this world a beautiful place by turning as much of it as possible into gardens and parks.

Remember leaded paint and gasoline? Check this out and you might think twice about gardening in existing back yard soil in the city. Or at the very least you may consider having the soil you are using tested for lead.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/garden/14lead.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

on a pretty huge scale. lots of tree parts, mostly, and some grass clippings.
but second, you know, we live on a poison planet. there is no clean soil to truck in. i'm just gonna do my best to keep going till this planet becomes uninhabitable. fuck it.

Of course gardening and small scale farming are of huge importance. I applaud your efforts. Yet I hope that you personally, and others who would consider attempting it, be careful. It can be dangerous.

Great post, just be careful, there are people here who care for you!

Scuba

but then again i have chickens that lay great eggs, and a pet parrot that is 15 years old. birds are very good indicators of environmental quality, and i am taking it at that.

i think perfection is the most dubious of goals. so much is wasted in it's pursuit.

Just because you think YOU are safe doesn't mean everyone is safe. Families with small children are especially at risk from the dangers of lead contaminated soils. I suggest you reexamine your position.

I quote the North Carolina Cooperative Extension Service:

Lead is the most common contaminant in urban soils, and intake of contaminated soil—through direct ingestion, dust inhalation, or exposure to soil clinging to produce—may pose a serious health risk. Young children and pregnant women are at the greatest risk from lead contamination, as high lead exposure may result in behavioral and learning disabilities. Lead may be derived from a number of pervasive sources, including gasoline emissions, paint chips from older buildings, plumbing pipes, and industrial processes. Lead accumulates where it is deposited and is not easily removed from soil. Soil testing for lead is essential prior
to gardening in an urban setting, and if high levels are found, steps must be taken to minimize lead exposure and prevent health risks.

The bulk of this excellent pdf can be found here: http://www.soil.ncsu.edu/publications/Soilfacts/AG-439-78_Urban_Soil_Contaminants.pdf

Scuba

i already know that lead is everywhere in my environment, and likely irremediable. that is why my first year was spent accumulating compostable materials which now cover the original soil to a depth of several feet.

the land has never been anything but a residential, tho, and likely not as bad as most.

The weight of the gardens?

And thanks for posting this - it really is a great story.

many of them have large structural enhancements before they are planted. we looked into it and it would have been about $10k to make our 2000 sq ft roof usable.
but many of the old, old buildings- big stone behemoths here in the land of no wooden buildings after that fire thing- are strong enough for at least some containers, and many of the early "chicago skyscrapers" were also pretty over built.
city is full of very good architects and builders.

i was really surprised myself, i tell ya.

A gift that keeps on giving. A tragedy at the time, it enabled the City of Big Shoulders to modernize - and now these roof gardens are among the beneficiaries.

(I might be off by a year or two.)

there is a very interesting theory that it was caused by a comet. my computer is being balky, but if you google great chicago fire comet, you will get a lot of links, some kooky, some good. personally i do believe this theory.
and if you ever go to peshtigo wisconsin, don't mention the chicago fire. they nearly ran us out of town when we visited their museum.

Of course, my education on most things Chicago is traced to my Chi Town school days of the sixties. But will definitely check it out.

And yes, Peshtigo WI got hammered by a much bigger and more devastating fire the same weekend that Chicago had its fire. But the media outlet city will always receive the lion's share of attention.

Forty years later, I was greatly surprised to see the same history book that us school kids had in fourth grade, only much bigger, on the shelf of a California friend. I borrowed said book. When I got to the chapter on the 1870's - I found out that Chicago at that time was a city of bordellos, brothels and had an extensive red light district. far from being the "City of churches and gardens" my grammar school had told us it was, it was rather a mini-Amsterdam.

Apparently the newspapers had the citizenry get worked up enough to descend on that neighborhood, on the near North side, and pull down the buildings that housed so much "sin and pleasure."

we still have a little bit of everything here.

are real page turner based about the worlds fair here 'devil in the white city' is one of the best books i have read, i think. it is some pretty amazing history.