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NRaleighLiberal

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It almost brings tears to my eyes Curmudgeoness Apr 2013 #1
Thanks so much....your response made me smile! NRaleighLiberal Apr 2013 #2
Wow, you mean that the government had foresight? Curmudgeoness Apr 2013 #3

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
1. It almost brings tears to my eyes
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 06:29 PM
Apr 2013

that you have done so much work with these tomatoes, and have worked so hard to find them.

But I have to ask, if these tomatoes were in the USDA collection, why were they thought to be extinct? Were the seeds so old that they didn't expect them to be good? Or had they just forgotten about them or misplaced them? How did you get access to the USDA collection?

I love that you do this!

NRaleighLiberal

(60,499 posts)
2. Thanks so much....your response made me smile!
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 09:22 PM
Apr 2013

A few answers....the USDA (through a program named GRIN) stored commercially available tomatoes offered by companies through the years, but it seemed as though those who have a passion for tomato history didn't know much about them until they put the collection on line about 20 years ago. And most old tomato enthusiasts focus on family heirlooms, not the authentic old US company produced varieties.

So I just came along at the right time with the right passion and curiosity, compared the old seed catalog listings with the listing in the GRIN program....the USDA had them in frozen storage, some for over 60 years. The other thing is that they used to, at least, send samples of 25 seeds of anything requested (our tax dollars and government at work for us) - so I did my research, found 150 or so historically important tomatoes that seem to have vanished from current catalogs - requested them, got them, grew them and saved seed from them.

I sent many to seed companies for reintroduction, and offered others through the Seed Savers Exchange - hope to write a magazine article about it someday, and have a future book in mind.

the best part is that some of them are really, really good!

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
3. Wow, you mean that the government had foresight?
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 05:30 PM
Apr 2013

They saved seeds? Gotta wonder why they felt the need to store commercially available seeds. But I'm just glad that they did. And I am really surprised that they would have sent you seeds for that many varieties. Impressive. Again, just glad that they did.

That book should have been your winter project. Oh well, too late now.

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