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Baitball Blogger

(47,760 posts)
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 07:57 PM Mar 2020

Repost from Lounge -- where the gardeners must be out for dinner.

Oh, the carnage. Warning: Too many earthworms died for this post.
So the time came when I had to go wash some rocks. Specifically landscaping rocks that I used for a pathway that is also an essential drainage area for the yard. It's about three inches thick with decorative rock, probably more than I need, but I learned quickly that only the surface looks clean. Everything else is dirt.

It occurred to me as I tried to pick out the bruised earthworms from the rocks that came up with a shovel, that the dirt was actually worm castings. That's at least 7 to 5 years of castings. So I collected the "dirt" and applied it to my ornamental plants. But I wondered if I could also use it for my edible plants, though I'm not sure that fertilizer could have washed down to the path from the higher part of the slope?

If you grow your own edible garden, how would you handle it?

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Repost from Lounge -- where the gardeners must be out for dinner. (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 OP
not quite clear about question handmade34 Mar 2020 #1
Okay. Good question. Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #3
Well, they're not dead, so WhiteTara Mar 2020 #7
Thank you! Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #8
Okay, on rereading, WhiteTara Mar 2020 #9
+1 Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #10
Most all the earthworms we see are non native invasive species Botany Mar 2020 #2
I did not know that. Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #4
same here handmade34 Mar 2020 #5
That's good to know. Thank you. Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #6
Worm casting are fine for edible food growing. Commercial fertilizers are as well. NutmegYankee Mar 2020 #11
I have been using osmocote as a fertilizer. Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #12
I get it from Pro-Mix soils and had gotten it in a plastic tub from gardeners.com. NutmegYankee Mar 2020 #13
Thank you. Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #14
I'd look online. NutmegYankee Mar 2020 #15
LOL! Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #16

Baitball Blogger

(47,760 posts)
3. Okay. Good question.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 08:10 PM
Mar 2020

The fertilizer I refer to include 10-10-10 that I apply to grass on the higher slope and Camelia/Rose/Azalea fertilizer. Under the worst case scenario, it might leech down to the lower slope. No worries from direct contact with that kind of store bought fertilizer and the pathway.

So, I'm trying to determine the safety and purity of the worm castings that I'm digging up on the lower slope. Can I apply it to edible herbs I have growing in containers?

WhiteTara

(30,139 posts)
7. Well, they're not dead, so
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 09:43 PM
Mar 2020

there's that. I wouldn't use chemicals for anything, but you can remediate the soil with mycorrhiza (microscopic fungi)

WhiteTara

(30,139 posts)
9. Okay, on rereading,
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 09:39 AM
Mar 2020

use that compost on the edibles. Add some mycorrhizae liquid to the place where you're adding the new soil and the little baby fungi will clean up all the bad stuff and add life to soil.

Botany

(72,350 posts)
2. Most all the earthworms we see are non native invasive species
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 08:10 PM
Mar 2020

Their castings are good for plants and they help in the life cycle of supportive fungi but
overall our common earthworm are not good for the environment. In the vast majority of
our forested ecosystems they digest the leaf litter before it can become thick enough to
help in the forest floor's biodynamics.

Baitball Blogger

(47,760 posts)
4. I did not know that.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 08:12 PM
Mar 2020

There were two things that were true when I first moved into this house over twenty years ago. The first, that I couldn't find an earthworm to save my life. The property had been unoccupied for a year and the ground dry. And the second was that there wasn't a lizard to be found. Now we have tons of both.

handmade34

(22,892 posts)
5. same here
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 08:42 PM
Mar 2020

20+ years ago there were no earthworms in my soon to be garden... now they are prolific after years of adding compost, chicken manure and organic matter such as leaves from my woods

worm castings are excellent fertilizer and there is no reason not to use them... doesn't seem to be a problem with potential runoff although if you are certified organic, there is a concern

NutmegYankee

(16,303 posts)
11. Worm casting are fine for edible food growing. Commercial fertilizers are as well.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:44 AM
Mar 2020

There is nothing dangerous with 10-10-10 for food growth. Most organic fertilizers are the same substances, but made from natural and sustainable processes, whereas commercial fertilizer is factory made and usually requires oil/gas. The plants do not care. They get the nutrients either method.

I have both organic beds and non-organic beds. My organic beds are raised and have a custom soil mix and are infused with mycorrhizae. The non-organic beds are natural New England Charlton type soil (fine sandy loam) and would require substantial efforts to convert to a sustainable compost infused garden area, so I just hit that spot with osmocote. After years of testing between the two systems, the results were negligible in differences.

NutmegYankee

(16,303 posts)
13. I get it from Pro-Mix soils and had gotten it in a plastic tub from gardeners.com.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:51 AM
Mar 2020

I don’t see it this year on their website.

Baitball Blogger

(47,760 posts)
14. Thank you.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:56 AM
Mar 2020

In my 30 day social distancing regime, I plan to spend more time in my garden. Thank you for the information.

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