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catbyte

(35,779 posts)
Wed Sep 20, 2023, 06:10 PM Sep 2023

Interesting video about Wolf Dogs from dog groomer Girl With The Dogs

This dog is stunning and so well-behaved..



"This video was in no way made to promote the breeding, selling, or purchasing of Wolfdogs. It was meant to be informative, and DETER people away from getting one. HOWEVER...there will always be breeders, and there will always be buyers. Just like any pet, if you're going to get a Wolfdog, get one from a responsible breeder, and make sure that you are 110% ready for the challenges."
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Interesting video about Wolf Dogs from dog groomer Girl With The Dogs (Original Post) catbyte Sep 2023 OP
What a beautiful girl. But what in the HELL are these breeders thinking??? niyad Sep 2023 #1
No kidding. catbyte Sep 2023 #2
For them... 2naSalit Sep 2023 #3
I love wolves and dogs. Eko Sep 2023 #4
I've only gotten to work with one wolf hybrid chowmama Sep 2023 #5
Wow, what an experience! catbyte Sep 2023 #7
Yeah, no, just no. Nobody should be breeding these dogs. hunter Sep 2023 #6

catbyte

(35,779 posts)
2. No kidding.
Wed Sep 20, 2023, 06:36 PM
Sep 2023

Vanessa was lucky she didn't lose a digit when clipping the Wolfdog's claws, but the dog was remarkably well-behaved otherwise. I was a little surprised that, being part Husky, she didn't start singing the song of her people when being blowdried, lol.

2naSalit

(92,752 posts)
3. For them...
Wed Sep 20, 2023, 06:39 PM
Sep 2023

It's all about the Benjamins.

Wolf hybrids do NOT make good pets and the mythology about them is very much the same as any conspiracy theory. I once met a veterinarian who advocated for them to be culled. As a big time wolf advocate over the past 30+ years, this shit pisses me off and makes me think our species deserves what's coming.

Eko

(8,492 posts)
4. I love wolves and dogs.
Wed Sep 20, 2023, 08:21 PM
Sep 2023

But putting those two things together is like putting pickles on a hamburger. It just ruins the best part of each of those.

chowmama

(511 posts)
5. I've only gotten to work with one wolf hybrid
Wed Sep 20, 2023, 09:50 PM
Sep 2023

At vet tech school. Every semester brought a new batch of animals from a dealer to train on. On the plus side, at the end of the semester, they always got adopted; sometimes from by the vet techs and sometimes by students from the other programs. By that time, they were spayed/neutered, had any other necessary medical work done and were fully vaccinated.

Anyway, I started to work with one dog per semester. My background was having adopted a neglected chow chow and having worked with her. (I give her all credit for working harder than I did - I asked for the moon, but I didn't actually expect it. She was amazing.)

It started with an adult puppy mill Shih Tzu who was terrified of all males. Naturally, the senior student assigned to be responsible for her was built like a linebacker. Assignments were by a drawing, and there were no trades. He was the gentlest of souls, but she nearly had cardiac arrest any time he came near her. He felt terrible for her and spared her as much as possible while keeping up his responsibilities. As far as we could tell, she was too scared to sleep much in the kennel. She wouldn't eliminate outside on leash because she was too nervous being that close to strange people. So she and I just hung out together when I had an hour to study, and she got some time to run around, sniff, pee and poop on the floor (which I cleaned up without any scolding) and slept soundly on my folded-up parka on top of a lab table. My arms wrapped around the coat to keep her from falling and I held the book beyond her. Out like a light; she didn't even wake when I turned the pages. However, if anybody came into the room, she woke instantly. One of the teachers adopted her and she had a good life after that.

So every semester after that, I started getting suggestions about which dog to work with. Eventually, there was Tyrus. The school pretended as hard as it could that Tyrus was an elkhound cross. Otherwise, it would have been illegal to treat him in any way; no vaccinations, no nothing. But all you had to do was look at the yellow eyes, the long nose, the really long toes...Yep. Wolf cross.

He was nice and affectionate, but boy, was he dominant. We did mostly basic obedience training, just to get him to learn to listen, and followed it up with playtime. Tuesday through Friday, he was a champ. After a weekend off, Monday always started with him testing to make sure the rules were still in place. He was the kind of dog who'd never stop checking to see if he could move up another notch. I was worried about who would adopt him.

One Monday I was working with Tyrus, asking him to heel instead of charging ahead. Instead, he fell behind a little and started nipping at my butt. Lightly, but unmistakably telling me where to go and possibly where to get off. I wheeled on him and snapped (verbally) "You can herd me the day I come in wearing fleece! Now Heel!!!" I was unaware that a teacher was watching us until I heard them laughing. Teach was from another program, but knowledgeable about dogs and comfortable living with another strong personality; Tyrus went to live with him at semester's end.

This is not a dog to have around children. This is not a dog to have in a household where only one of several persons is able to handle it. This is a dog who is hard-wired to rise as far in the pack as caninely possible. They are not and never will be completely tame. Some people enjoy the personality and, more importantly, are willing to make sure they're living in the right environment to keep the dog and others safe. Socialization is a big deal to help Wolfie deal with repair people, girl scout cookie vendors and all kinds of other stimuli. But nobody can watch a dog 24/7 and it's only responsible to let them live in a safe and secure space so everybody can relax. Irresponsible owners just end up with euthanised dogs, and it's not the dog's fault.

catbyte

(35,779 posts)
7. Wow, what an experience!
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 02:00 PM
Sep 2023

I don't know what goes on in people's heads when they do things like this. It's the same brain-dead mentality as tourists who want to take selfies with the "fluffy cows" in Yellowstone National Park. Stick to domesticated animals, ffs. If wolves wanted to be domesticated, they would've done it 15,000 years ago. Thanks for your story!

hunter

(38,945 posts)
6. Yeah, no, just no. Nobody should be breeding these dogs.
Wed Sep 20, 2023, 09:56 PM
Sep 2023

My wife has always been attracted to the death-row dogs at the shelter and she's brought a few home.

Civilizing them is always hard work.

All our dogs, over many years, have been shelter dogs.

The husky in this dog is probably the only reason she's not dangerous.

Our 3/4 husky loved all humans, he was a cuddle monster in spite of the the very rough circumstances of his upbringing, but he wasn't dog-like in his other behaviors, not at all.

"Eager to please humans" was simply not his nature. He lived with us on his own terms. He could not be scolded, he could not be bribed with treats.

If he decided to poop in the living room, he'd poop in the living room.

One of the reasons we don't have carpet.

Yeah, sure, I'm the sort who'd be living with wolves... somewhere back in the Pleistocene.

Let wolves be wolves.


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