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RZM

(8,556 posts)
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 09:29 PM Dec 2011

Was it Jokes that Brought Down Communism?

Noel Malcolm reviews Hammer & Tickle: A History of Communism Told Through Communist Jokes by Ben Lewis

Poor Mr Gorbachev. Every time he met Ronald Reagan at a summit, he was subjected by the American President to a stream of Russian jokes. Or rather, to be precise, Soviet jokes - the point of which was always to satirise some aspect of life under communism. What made it worse was that some of them really were very funny.

I like the one, for example, about the man who goes to buy a car in Moscow, pays for it, and is told by the salesman that he can collect it on a particular date in 10 years' time. The buyer thinks for a moment and then asks: 'Morning or afternoon?' The salesman, astonished by the question, asks: 'What difference does it make?' And the buyer answers: 'Well, the plumber is coming in the morning.'

As Gorbachev was well aware, these jokes had not been manufactured by some sinister department of the CIA; they were real ones, as told by real Russians. He was probably also aware that although people in the West told jokes about the frustrations of ordinary life, there was no such thing as a whole category of jokes about the capitalist system as such.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/non_fictionreviews/3554432/Was-it-jokes-that-defeated-Communism.html

Headline is obviously hyperbole, but it's true that these systems generated some amazing jokes. Ask me and I'll tell you some of my favorites
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Was it Jokes that Brought Down Communism? (Original Post) RZM Dec 2011 OP
In Soviet Russia, jokes tell you! drm604 Dec 2011 #1
I heard the only factory in the USSR working at full production was making.... Scuba Dec 2011 #2
LOL. Here's one of my favorites RZM Dec 2011 #3
Jokes have tremendous power. n/t ellisonz Dec 2011 #4
Because they re-enforce stereotypes zipplewrath Jan 2012 #13
ok..I am asking...tell me 2 of your favorite jokes related to the topic, pls. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #5
Ok RZM Dec 2011 #6
*Snort* dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #9
Here's another RZM Dec 2011 #7
That could easily translate into an American political joke.... dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #10
And lastly, a Putin joke RZM Dec 2011 #8
!!! Adsos Letter Dec 2011 #11
Here's another Putin joke. Lionel Mandrake Dec 2011 #12
Lionel Mandrake Diclotican Jan 2013 #14
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
2. I heard the only factory in the USSR working at full production was making....
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 09:47 PM
Dec 2011

... "Elevator Out of Order" signs.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
3. LOL. Here's one of my favorites
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 09:53 PM
Dec 2011

It's 1988 and all of a sudden, God comes down from the heavens and speaks to Ronald Reagan and East German President Erich Honecker while both are in bed and tells them that the world will end tomorrow.

The next morning, Reagan meets with his top advisers and says:

'I've got good news and bad news. The good news is God exists. The bad news is the world's ending.'

Honecker also addresses his top people the next day and says:

'I've got good news and bad news. The bad news is God exists. The good news is Perestroika's ending.'

zipplewrath

(16,692 posts)
13. Because they re-enforce stereotypes
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 03:52 PM
Jan 2012

Even if they are "false".

Pres. Ford was a collegiate athelete, a golfer, and a fairly accomplished downhill skier. SNL turned him into a stumbling dolt.

There are several "zipper jokes" where the target of the joke can change with every administration. They are usually based upon the idea that the First lady is smart, and the president is only there because of her. It was weird to hear them with the Clinton's because of course he was the Rhode Scholar, but none the less the joke was that he was the dolt.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
6. Ok
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:29 PM
Dec 2011

So it's 1961 and Khrushchev is on a goodwill tour of the bloc. He stops at a small village in Romania to give a speech. He then leaves by car with his driver. Right outside of town, they pass a farmhouse and a pig runs into the road. The driver hits it and kills it. Khrushchev orders him to stop the car and says:

"This is bad. We're supposed to be on a goodwill tour. We can't just leave."

He hands the driver a wad of rubles and says:

"Go up to the farmhouse, explain what happened, and compensate them for the pig and give them something extra for their troubles."

So the driver disappears over a hill and goes to the farmhouse. After 15 minutes he's not back. Then a half-hour and then an hour. Khrushchev's alone in the car and starts to get really worried.

Finally, after 90 minutes, the driver appears over the hill, laden with all sorts of gifts. When he gets back to the car, Khrushchev shouts:

"What the hell is all of this? I told you to compensate them! Explain yourself!"

The driver responds:

"I don't know, sir. All I said was: 'I've got Khrushchev in the car and I killed the pig.'"

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
7. Here's another
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:37 PM
Dec 2011

Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, and Brezhnev are all traveling together by train. All of a sudden, the train stops. Each man then gives a suggestion about how to get it moving.

Lenin says:

'Comrades, let's call a day of compulsory labor and the workers and peasants will come and fix it.'

Stalin says:

'Let's shoot the conductor.'

Khrushchev says:

'Let's move the engine to the caboose and see if that helps.'

Finally, Brezhnev says:

'Let's just pull down the curtains and pretend we're still moving!'

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
8. And lastly, a Putin joke
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:40 PM
Dec 2011

Last edited Thu Dec 29, 2011, 11:08 PM - Edit history (2)

So Putin's asleep in his bed and all of a sudden Stalin's spirit comes to him in a dream. Putin's glad to see him and asks what advice he has for him.

Stalin says:

'You need to do two things. First, you need to shoot all of your political enemies. Then, you need to paint all of the buildings in the Kremlin blue.'

Putin responds:

'Why blue?'

Stalin says:

'See! I knew you wouldn't ask about the first one!'

Lionel Mandrake

(4,121 posts)
12. Here's another Putin joke.
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 09:10 PM
Dec 2011

Putin and Medvedev enter a restaurant. The waiter arrives to take their order.

Putin says: "I'll have the steak."

The waiter asks: "How about the vegetable?"

Putin says: "He'll have the steak, too."

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