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RZM

(8,556 posts)
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 04:32 PM Jan 2012

Dinner With Churchill: Policy Making at the Dinner Table

Churchill’s eating, drinking and smoking habits were part of his persona, especially in later years. They showed in his fatness and that ever-present cigar; but rather less in his deportment, which nearly everyone who knew him expressed surprise was not more affected by his consumption of alcohol. Hitler described him as a ‘superannuated drunkard supported by Jewish gold’; but he of course didn’t know him personally. Hitler’s reputation (at least) was very different: abstemious, teetotal, vegetarian, not known to enthuse much over the good things in life. It is tempting to speculate what effect this might have had on their respective characters. As the punning philosopher put it, ‘Man ist was er isst’ (People are what they eat). In that case Churchill was plain cooking, whisky, champagne and the best Havana cigar smoke; and all that these might be taken to imply.

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Churchill’s drinking revealed his international side more. He doesn’t seem to have been a beer man. He liked French wines, especially champagne (Pol Roger for preference), which he drank to what most of us would regard as excess; plus Cognac, and Scotch whisky (Johnnie Walker Black Label): ‘the main basic standing refreshment of the white officer in the East’, as he called it. So that could be said to reflect his imperialism. It’s the whisky and brandy that made people suspect him of tipsiness (he started at breakfast); but in fact he nearly always drank them heavily diluted – really no more than a ‘mouthwash’, was how his private secretary described it; and in general it seems clear that he could ‘hold his liquor’, as the saying went. He reckoned it ‘quickened his intellect’.


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Dinner With Churchill: Policy Making at the Dinner Table (Original Post) RZM Jan 2012 OP
"He only smoked the best Havanas, usually nine or ten a day." ellisonz Jan 2012 #1
4 out of 5 imperialists agree RZM Jan 2012 #2
Hey you figured it out... ellisonz Jan 2012 #3
A home brewer I know claims that IPA was a colonial brew as well RZM Jan 2012 #4
That is correct. n/t ellisonz Jan 2012 #5

ellisonz

(27,755 posts)
1. "He only smoked the best Havanas, usually nine or ten a day."
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 04:04 AM
Jan 2012

That's a shit load of Havana's - which are far and away the best (personal experience). I also favor Cognac and Johnnie Walker Black Label, although I enjoy both with a nice cold Guinness.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
2. 4 out of 5 imperialists agree
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 11:17 AM
Jan 2012

Johnny Black is what you pack when going out to serve in the colonies

ellisonz

(27,755 posts)
3. Hey you figured it out...
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 02:41 PM
Jan 2012

...I'm an imperialist, was it all the khaki and gunfire the other day?

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
4. A home brewer I know claims that IPA was a colonial brew as well
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 08:29 PM
Jan 2012

It was designed to still taste good after being shipped to India, apparently. He knows his beer, so I don't doubt him.

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