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left-of-center2012

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Sun Jan 16, 2022, 06:13 PM Jan 2022

Who was the first person to write about the British Isles?

The British Isles, tucked away in the northwest of Europe, has been inhabited by humans since Paleolithic times, but the people who lived there didn't develop a writing system until much later, and the first local account of the isles did not appear until Anglo-Saxon times, around the seventh century A.D.
So who was the first person to write about the British Isles and describe its inhabitants? To find out, we need to look to the south — to the Mediterranean world of the ancient Greeks.

A Greek mariner named Pytheas made the first recorded voyage to the British Isles in the fourth century B.C.
He circumnavigated the island of Britain, explored the northern lands of Europe and was the first to describe the Celtic tribes of Britain, the midnight sun, dramatic tidal shifts and polar ice.
When he returned home, he wrote an account called "On the Ocean" ("Peri tou Okeanou" in Greek) that circulated widely throughout the ancient world and was read, discussed and debated by scholars for centuries.

Little is known about Pytheas. He was a citizen of Massalia, a Greek colony in what is now Marseilles in southern France, and it is uncertain whether he was a merchant or simply a gentleman scientist. "We can judge from his writings that Pytheas had a scientific education," Barry Cunliffe told Live Science. Cunliffe is an emeritus professor of European archaeology at the University of Oxford and author of "The Extraordinary Voyage of Pytheas the Greek" (Walker & Company, 2002).

Pytheas made a series of astronomical calculations of latitude during this journey with a device called a gnomon, which was an instrument similar to a modern-day sundial.
He accurately estimated the circumference of the British Isles — that is, the distance around the islands of what is now Great Britain and Ireland — placing it at approximately 4,000 miles, according to the Encyclopedia Britannica.

Pytheas wrote "On the Ocean" once he returned to Massalia. Until the writings of Tacitus and Julius Caesar some 300 years later, "On the Ocean" was likely the only source of information about Britain and the northern latitudes for most of the world, Cunliffe told Live Science. There were likely copies of Pytheas's work in the great libraries of Pergamum in what is now Turkey; Rhodes, Greece; and Alexandria, Egypt.

Unfortunately, "On the Ocean" has not survived. Only fragments of it remain, paraphrased or excerpted in the writings of other classical writers such as Strabo, Polybius, Timaeus, Eratosthenes, Diodorus Siculus and Pliny the Elder.
But the fragments we have are significant, Cunliffe said, as they contain a multitude of astronomical, geographic, biological, oceanographic and ethnological observations that have considerable scientific and anthropological significance.

full article:
https://www.livescience.com/first-western-description-british-isles

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Who was the first person to write about the British Isles? (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Jan 2022 OP
"The Extraordinary Voyage of Pytheas the Greek" left-of-center2012 Jan 2022 #1
I've been reading Hobevalge and Hobevalgem, two books written in Estonian Wicked Blue Jan 2022 #2
'This Norwegian Island Claims to Be the Fabled Land of Thule' left-of-center2012 Jan 2022 #3
A number of places have been thought to be Ultima Thule Wicked Blue Jan 2022 #4

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
1. "The Extraordinary Voyage of Pytheas the Greek"
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 06:16 PM
Jan 2022

Around 330 b.c., a remarkable adventurer named Pytheas set out from the Greek colony of Massalia (now Marseille) on the Mediterranean Sea to explore the fabled, terrifying lands of northern Europe. Renowned archaeologist Barry Cunliffe here re-creates Pytheas's unprecedented journey, which occurred almost 300 years before Julius Caesar landed in Britain.

Beginning with an invaluable pocket history of early Mediterranean civilization, Cunliffe illuminates what Pytheas would have seen and experienced—the route he likely took to reach Brittany, then Britain, Iceland, and Denmark; and evidence of the ancient cultures he would have encountered on shore.

The discoveries Pytheas made would reverberate throughout the civilized world for years to come, and in recounting his extraordinary voyage, Cunliffe chronicles an essential chapter in the history of civilization.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/89246.The_Extraordinary_Voyage_of_Pytheas_the_Greek

Wicked Blue

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2. I've been reading Hobevalge and Hobevalgem, two books written in Estonian
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 06:43 PM
Jan 2022

in which the voyage of Pytheas is a major theme. The books, whose names translate as Silverwhite and More Silverwhite, were published in 1976 and 1984 by the late Lennart Meri (1929-2006), a former president of Estonia, writer, producer and film director. Unfortunately these books have not been translated into English, only Finnish, Italian and Russian.

My vocabulary is not adequate to understand everything in Meri's books, but he presents an interesting theory that Pytheas sailed far into the Baltic Sea to the Estonian island of Saaremaa. Meri bases some of his theory on the sunrise and sunset times at different points of latitude as recorded by Pytheas.

Wikipedia: "Hõbevalge is based on a wide-ranging ancient seafaring sources, and carefully unveils the secret of the legendary Ultima Thule. The name was given in classical times to the most northerly land, reputedly six days' voyage from Britain. Several alternative places for its location have been suggested, among them the Shetland Islands, Iceland, and Norway. According to Meri, it is possible that Thule derives from the ancient Estonian folk poetry, which depicts the birth of the Kaali crater lake in Saaremaa."

Another source: "His account is strained by surprising hypotheses, the main one of which is that the ancient mariner Pytheas travelled as far as Saaremaa in his journeys and called it Thule."

His theory has been derided by some, but I find it fascinating nonetheless.


left-of-center2012

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3. 'This Norwegian Island Claims to Be the Fabled Land of Thule'
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 06:46 PM
Jan 2022

“... Pytheas reached a place he described as neither earth nor sea, “but instead a sort of mixture of these similar to a marine lung, in which the earth and the sea and all things together are suspended, and this mixture is … impassable by foot or ship.”

Pytheas landed nearby, on an island whose name he heard as Thule [TOO-lee]. Eventually he returned to Massalia and wrote his masterwork, On the Ocean, an account of his voyage and a treatise of enormous influence in the ancient world.”

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/this-norwegian-island-claims-to-be-fabled-land-thule-180975740/

Wicked Blue

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4. A number of places have been thought to be Ultima Thule
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 06:50 PM
Jan 2022

Wikipedia: Thule (/ˈθjuːliː/[1] Greek: Θούλη, translit. Thoúlē; Latin: Thūlē is the farthest north location mentioned in ancient Greek and Roman literature and cartography. Modern interpretations have included Orkney, Shetland, northern Scotland, the island of Saaremaa (Ösel) in Estonia,[2][3] and the Norwegian island of Smøla.

Another hypothesis, first proposed by Lennart Meri in 1976, holds that the island of Saaremaa (which is often known by the exonym Osel) in Estonia, could be Thule. That is, there is a phonological similarity between Thule and the root tule- "of fire" in Estonian (and other Finnic languages). A crater lake named Kaali on the island appears to have been formed by a meteor strike in prehistory.[2][3][26] This meteor strike is often linked to Estonian folklore which has it that Saaremaa was a place where the sun at one point "went to rest".

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